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re: Is the hydroxyclorquine working or not?
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:08 pm to GaDawg9977
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:08 pm to GaDawg9977
Quote - democrats say no, Republicans say yes. You decide who to believe. Quote
More like all those who desperately want Trump to be right and anyone who knows nothing about the scientific method say ‘yes’. Everyone else says ‘I sure as heck hope so’. Until real results come out, there is absolutely no one who says ‘no’.
More like all those who desperately want Trump to be right and anyone who knows nothing about the scientific method say ‘yes’. Everyone else says ‘I sure as heck hope so’. Until real results come out, there is absolutely no one who says ‘no’.
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Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:12 pm to Bristol Dawg
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More like all those who desperately want Trump to be right and anyone who knows nothing about the scientific method say ‘yes’. Everyone else says ‘I sure as heck hope so’. Until real results come out, there is absolutely no one who says ‘no
The DR.s don’t want to be wrong either. Therefore they have to make sure to manufacture enough deaths to make all of this shite worth it. All the while keeping “expert” status even though their models change daily. Unelected individuals shouldn’t have this much control of our country and people’s freedoms/rights.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:13 pm to Bristol Dawg
To expound: med surg is having moderate success
ICU you're in bad shape baw
ICU you're in bad shape baw
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:22 pm to GaDawg9977
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The DR.s don’t want to be wrong either. Therefore they have to make sure to manufacture enough deaths to make all of this shite worth it. All the while keeping “expert” status even though their models change daily. Unelected individuals shouldn’t have this much control of our country and people’s freedoms/rights.
Oh my goodness. You should not talk about any of this anymore.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:23 pm to The Shed
My mom is positive and on it. She says it is working.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:26 pm to GaDawg9977
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How so? Killed fewer than flu.
Eh, we're entering average flu territory in total deaths in just over a month...with 2 or our most populated states (CA and TX) not really contributing a lot to the death toll. Oh, and the flu already killed its share of people this season - this is just lagniappe.
New York managed to pass a flu season, and then lap it, in the course of a few weeks. And the only medical professional on the OT even remotely comparing it to the flu is a pediatrician (and his clients are unscathed).
Louisiana is inching up on a US average flu season (LA COVID - 15.1 deaths/100,000, US flu multi-season average around 17 deaths/100,000). And the first COVID death wasn't until after Mardi Gras.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:27 pm to The Shed
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Is the hydroxyclorquine working or not?I dont know what to believe anymore
Yes, it definitely is working.
The original French study kept going, and HCQ+azithromycin has a 99.3% success rate with resolved cases, meaning someone died or was cleared of the virus. To put that in perspective, as of yesterday the worldwide death percentage compared to cleared was 27% to 73%.
The 1.4% death rate we keep hearing (which is still double the .07 in the study btw) is misleading, because it's 1.4% of all confirmed cases (aka lots in progress), not resolved ones. And there are only two ways they get resolved.
All the "it doesn't work!" screeching is just TDS hyperventilating because Trump is talking about it a lot and that makes some people fussy. At worst, there are some people who probably shouldn't be taking it due to heart conditions that could be exacerbated, but their doctor should catch that before prescribing it.
And the haters who fuss about mUh sCiEnCe should know that science is an ongoing process that is incrementally refined. The original study was promising but not conclusive...but still also better to try than not, given that the drugs have been around for decades and we know how they work and their contraindications. This updated one is far more conclusive, and had ZERO of the feared sudden cardiac deaths that fake news was hyping. Exactly one patient was withdrawn as soon as they noticed an arrhythmia, because they were monitoring for it given the person's history.
And I don't watch Fox News or any of the amateur hour lefty fake news trash.
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:29 pm to The Shed
I know someone who was prescribed it and their symptoms turned for the better. Now fully recovered.
She also tested negative on two test before testing positive in the third.
She also tested negative on two test before testing positive in the third.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:29 pm to Menji
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The original French study kept going, and HCQ+azithromycin has a 99.3% success rate with resolved cases, meaning someone died or was cleared of the virus. To put that in perspective, as of yesterday the worldwide death percentage compared to cleared was 27% to 73%.
Meanwhile France may move into 2nd most deaths in the world by this weekend. Almost 4 times our per capita death rate.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:35 pm to MoarKilometers
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Meanwhile France may move into 2nd most deaths in the world by this weekend. Almost 4 times our per capita death rate.
For sure. The study was limited, and France is big on that multiculturalism baw.
Didn't close their borders until too late, didn't shut down public gatherings because closing mosques would be rayciss.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:47 pm to GaDawg9977
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How so? Killed fewer than flu.
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The New York City Department of Health said that roughly 2,000 of those deaths happen within the five boroughs every year.
If divided equally over the course of a year, slightly under 400 New Yorkers died each month in 2018 from the flu or pneumonia, around 167 of whom were in the city.
Nearly 800 deaths in NY in past 24 hours. Still think it is the same as influenza?
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:50 pm to islandtiger
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2,000 of those deaths happen within the five boroughs every year.
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If divided equally over the course of a year, slightly under 400 New Yorkers died each month in 2018
Am I missing something on this math?
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:50 pm to Penrod
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It apparently represses the immune system, and they are starting to think that the majority of deaths are due to overactive immune responses. As implied by the poster above, when a person reaches a critical state it’s too late for this drug to be of much use.
If that's the case, it seems like they would also be trying actual immuno-suppressants. I take two different ones to keep my immune system from rejecting a liver transplant. Heck, we've been worrying that we are in more danger due to suppressed immune systems.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:50 pm to The Shed
Democrats are against it so in under the current political circumstances it prob means yes.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:51 pm to BRIllini07
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Louisiana is inching up on a US average flu season (LA COVID - 15.1 deaths/100,000, US flu multi-season average around 17 deaths/100,000). And the first COVID death wasn't until after Mardi Gras.
Those numbers will go ignored by the dumbass in this thread.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:53 pm to The Shed
yes. The declining stats hospitalized/vs. #s on ventilators past several days in La. hosps. is due to this combination therapy with zithro...
Posted on 4/9/20 at 7:54 pm to DevilDagNS
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Democrats are against it so in under the current political circumstances it prob means yes.
FWIW the person I know who was prescribed it was on her local news. She lives in a very liberal area of the north east. They refused to call it hydroxyclorquine and actually only referred to it as the “controversial Trump medicine” multiple times
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:02 pm to NYCAuburn
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They refused to call it hydroxyclorquine and actually only referred to it as the “controversial Trump medicine” multiple times
Pathetic pieces of shite.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:03 pm to GaDawg9977
quote:The right is not saying yes, they are saying those with COVID-19 should have the choice because it has helped people. Despite what the fake news says, there is basically zero risk taking it.
Dems say no, Republicans say yes. One of these said they needed 30,000 vents in NY and didn’t need 1/4 That number. You decide who to believe.
The Dems just oppose anything Trump says, that is why they are making up massive and extremely dangerous lies saying that the commonly used anti-malaria drug is killing a bunch of people. Or the horrible and sad lie that Trump instructed the one guy to drink fish tank water, so he is responsible for the death.
The media and dems are a disgrace and threat to humanity. If Trump cured cancer the media and dems would still cry. Never seen a bigger group of babies in my life than your typical 2020 Democrat.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:09 pm to NYCAuburn
Approx 4000 New Yorkers die each year from influenza...about 400 per month.
The data cited were both the boroughs (2000 per year) and state (400 per month).
The data cited were both the boroughs (2000 per year) and state (400 per month).
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