re: Is poverty the common denominator of every major social problem?

You left off uneducated

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How would you quantify it?

You have a magic mirror where people stand in front of it and it gives that person’s luck value?

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You have repeatedly proven yourself to be a bad faith actor. I am no longer entertaining any of your idiotic questions. You are a lost cause.

No, tell me how you quantify luck.

You continue to argue in bad faith. We have laid out the evidence and you have buried your head in the sand. There is nothing more to be argued dude.

You refuse to accept that luck (both good and bad) plays a part, the magnitude of such effect is irrelevant, in the outcomes of people’s lives.

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Thank God you entered this thread, the amount of stupidity in one thread blows my mind. You and LL

Sad most people in this thread have a vote, because they fricking suck at stats and understanding things on a macro level.

Like the argument that kids at higher socioeconomic classes are just as likely to commit crime and be one drugs? Wtf??? Do the ones making these arguments even understand statistics at all?

The argument that crime is worse now!!! Again WTF!!???

So you know a rich white girl who got pregnant in high school and now rich whites have the same teen pregnancy rates?? Do you even math bro???

Upper middle and rich have the same divorce rate as the poor?? Do you stupid mother frickers know how to use Google at all? The stats are out there plain as day.

Look this is the USA and in the end 99% of the people in this country are self made, good or bad, they are self made from their own decisions.

But to the overall theme of the thread and SFP's 8 there are certain things you can do to almost virtually assure you do not end up being poor.

enter adulthood with three major responsibilities:

1) at least finish high school
2) get a full-time job
3) wait until age 21 to get married and have children.

If you do those things, the stats show you have less than a 3% chance of staying in poverty. If you wait until 25 to have kids it's less than a 2% chance you remain in poverty. Of you do not commit a felony and do the above the percentage drops even more. Google rules to not be poor and it shows the stats.

Now you must do like SFP said and Dodge the stray bullets so to speak. But the stray bullets are the outliers not the trend.

LL talked about IQ and that is a big driver and will be more so in the future. Those rules hold true now but as technology advances there maybe other indicators also. And some of that can not be fixed

Want to fix most of the problems, reward good behavior...i.e. no pregnancy in the poor....do not reward bad behavior like dropping out and getting pregnant and start preaching the above 3 rules everywhere. You have to make kids understand their decisions as teenagers will effect the rest of their lives.

The lower iq people are still going to have issues making the correct decision and you know what...frick em, let them seek help from charities or family or let them die, I don't care, just stop rewarding their bad behavior.

Some will still do as they want, low IQ or not and nothing you can do about that. Growing up we were told all the time, even back to first grade, pay attention or you will end up as a trash man or digging ditches. I am Facebook friends with plenty of the ones that didn't listen, now Johnny bugger eater is pissed and gripes about the "rich" holding him back and we need to punish those who are rich etc.

The worst are the common core post. Newsflash Karen, you couldn't do second grade math when we were in second grade....wtf things you can teach it your kid 15 years later?

Or the dumbass females that are single and poor as shite laughing about how much of a waste algebra was and how nobody uses that in the real world.

no being poor doesn't cause every social problem...the breakdown of the family unit and the lack of understanding that decisions have consequences is the bigger issue.

Tldr: most of you in this thread are fricking stupid and don't understand statistics.

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Also, “hard work” is very subjective

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It can be as subjective as you claim it to be. You can walk by someone performing a task such as digging a ditch and accurately conclude that they are working hard.

You can’t say the same about luck.

People who lack ability or motivation usually end up poor. Those same flaws will be accompanied by all the other evils you list. People with discipline and purpose do well in life.
A market economy lets people rank themselves.

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Go to wealthy communities and the divorce rate is high but very little crime and the kids are highly educated and successful.

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Do you have legit numbers to back this up?

Are you saying that divorce doesn't impact children from a wealthy family as much as it does a child from a poor family?

The only difference is that the wealthy family is able to afford resources that poor families can't.

And when it comes to education, for the most part, I think there are certain kids who will go on and succeed in life no matter what type of education they had in grade school. And there are kids who, no matter how good of an education they had in grade school.. Will end up being frick ups.

From K-5 then 9th - 12th I went to public school. From 6-8th grade I had to go to Catholic school. It was a small catholic school there was less than 20 students in my 8th grade class. There were two students in the class who were from what I would consider upper-middle class to upper class. Everyone else was middle class.

The two from the upper-middle class are both successful and does really well financially.

I was the only kid that went to public school after 8th grade. I think there was a total of 17 kids. 2 of them were from families that had money and they are doing well.

There are 3 that I know of who have been complete frick ups since they were in high school. While going to Catholic school, they got involved in drugs, etc, etc. One of them was killed a few years after graduating HS. He was shot and body was dumped over the levee.

There are several I haven't seen since and have no idea what they are doing, but the others I know about, are middle class.. As for as I know, them and their spouse work, just average people.

Based on that very small sample, I don't think the education they received in grade school had that much of an impact on their future as other factors. Being from wealthy families has a huge impact because there is money there to provide opportunities to the kids.

The home life of the 3 I know who are complete frick ups.. I remember one having divorced parents and him having to go to back and fourth between parents. One was a spoiled brat. And to this day his parents continue to bail him out of jail. He is a felon and got caught with a gun.. And somehow got out of it because of some bullshite about jails being too full and couldn't house him.. He has family who works in law enforcement and from what I understand they are able to get him out of trouble, but if he was from a family living in poverty with no one to pull some strings for him.. He would be in jail.

The biggest impact of living in poverty is the lack of opportunities.

I don't think poverty is the common denominator, I think it is a little more complex than that, but the biggest factor is how someone was raised.