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re: Is Northern Ireland its own country?

Posted on 1/14/16 at 1:28 am to
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 1:28 am to
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 1:57 am to
It's the bitch-arse part of Ireland.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:42 am to
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It's the bitch-arse part of Ireland.


Nothing bitch arse about Belfast
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 6:51 am to
Of course a limey would say that.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 7:10 am to
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Of course a limey would say that.


yea man

Belfast is a rough as place

That and Glasgow
Posted by 31LSUTigers31
Baton Rouge, LA
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 8:16 am to
According to the CIA it is not a country but part of the UK LINK
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 8:30 am to
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Is Northern Ireland its own country?


No, it is not. It is entirely equal to England, Wales, and Scotland in terms of citizenship, defence of the realm, and economic status. It uses the british pound, is guarded by the Royal Ulster Constabulary, and very much leans toward London.

The Republic of Ireland OTOH is it's own country, with its own army, different currency (the euro), and very much takes pride in leaning away from London. There was a bloody civil war fought to break away from London during WWI. Their declaration of Independence was modeled after the US.





ETA- those seven signatories were promptly round up and shot by the British in 1916 during the Easter Uprising. There's a big monument to them in the GPO in Dublin, bullet holes and everything still there.
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 8:35 am
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 8:33 am to
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And the Isle of Man, and the Bailiwicks of Guernsey & Jersey.



Interesting fact, if you are born on the isle of Man, you get a British passport, but don't enjoy visa free travel throughout Europe, as it is a British overseas territory, and not a proper part of the United Kingdom. Last I checked same went for Jersey & Guernsey.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 8:35 am to
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It is a country within the United Kingdom.


I'm confused by the downvote of this and why this thread is still going.

The United Kingdom is made up of 4 countries (England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland). Each of these separate units practice a certain degree of autonomy (differs in each area) while the UK Parliament is in charge of other things.

Maybe people are getting hung up on the term country. How about "semi-autonomous province"?
Posted by LSUBoo
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 8:41 am to
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Interesting fact, if you are born on the isle of Man, you get a British passport, but don't enjoy visa free travel throughout Europe, as it is a British overseas territory, and not a proper part of the United Kingdom. Last I checked same went for Jersey & Guernsey.



Well that sounds retarded.
Posted by Swoopin
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 8:44 am to
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So is it, or isn't it, it's own country



It is not, in the sense of how one typically understands "country".
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 8:51 am to
What is the United Kingdom referred to as?
What is England, Scotland, Wales, N Ireland refereed to as?

I had this discuss with my cousin who lived there for 8 years and his answer was about as not an answer as the not an answer there has been in this thread.

Is the UK a fricken country and the other 4 just territories of that country, or are they all their own country, but have some stupid deal where they are governed by certain things they've agreed upon called the UK?
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 8:59 am to
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What is the United Kingdom referred to as?


A parliamentary constitutional monarchy made up of a union of countries that practice various levels of autonomy?
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 9:00 am
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 9:05 am to
Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom but not part of Great Britain.

Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 9:07 am to
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What is the United Kingdom referred to as?
What is England, Scotland, Wales, N Ireland refereed to as?

I had this discuss with my cousin who lived there for 8 years and his answer was about as not an answer as the not an answer there has been in this thread.

Is the UK a fricken country and the other 4 just territories of that country, or are they all their own country, but have some stupid deal where they are governed by certain things they've agreed upon called the UK?



Originally England was it's own country, and Scotland was separate as was Ireland. The Normans invaded Ireland in the 12th century, and set up camp there until the Tudors conquered it in the 16th century, extending British control of the island until independence in the 1920's. Henry VIII of England came to hold title of the King of Ireland, and eventually passed down that title to James VI of England who eventually also came to hold title of King of Scotland. Wales was annexed as a part of England in the 1500's.

The three different sovereign kingdoms weren't legally united until 1707 by an act of Parliament.

tl:dr they all started separate but eventually came to be ruled by the same person, uniting all three kingdoms as a single nation.

This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 9:09 am
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 9:11 am to
So United Kingdom is the country, and the others are just pretending to be one for soccer purposes?

The UK is a member of Nato, not England.
The UK, not England, compete in the Olympics

The only thing that hints that England, Scotland, Wales and N. Ireland are countries are soccer and rugby teams.

They can call them what they want, UK is the country, the rest are just territories in the UK.
Posted by Emiliooo
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 9:16 am to
LINK

This video does a pretty good job at explaining the UK, the dude talks fast and has a lot to say.
Posted by maine82
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 9:16 am to
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The people of the entire island of Ireland should have the right to vote on whether the Six Counties of Northern Island are part of the UK or part of the Republic of Ireland.


Thanks for your input, Gerry Adams.
Posted by maine82
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 9:18 am to
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So United Kingdom is the country, and the others are just pretending to be one for soccer purposes?

The UK is a member of Nato, not England.
The UK, not England, compete in the Olympics

The only thing that hints that England, Scotland, Wales and N. Ireland are countries are soccer and rugby teams.

They can call them what they want, UK is the country, the rest are just territories in the UK.


We have a similar dynamic in America with the territories. Puerto Rico, Guam, et al field their own Olympic teams. In the UK, the four main countries come together for the Olympics but they split on soccer and rugby. It's just as another poster said earlier - different levels of autonomy.
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 9:21 am to
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The UK, not England, compete in the Olympics

Are they going by UK now and not Great Britain?
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 9:23 am
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