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re: Is NOLA the most dysfunctional major American city?

Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:30 am to
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
17968 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:30 am to
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I'm sure there's a way to change it, get more cops involved with community stuff, let the kids of the neighborhood see their face and whatnot, but that probably isn't going to happen


They've been doing this for quite a while. It all breaks down because poorer people have a bigger struggle to exist. Struggle leads to looking for easy way to make a buck. Easy way to make a buck is illegal activity. All of a sudden they see police snatch up neighbors who they see as struggling to get by blame the police and authorities for making it even harder to exist.

People's moral values change and alter depending on their situation. If you are in a bad financial situation for many generations then there isn't much you wouldn't do to change that and struggle less.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8090 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:32 am to
If every person in the country is aware of the city and the city is known across the world as the birthplace of possibly the most important musical form ever created, then it's probably still a major city. Maybe not in practice anymore, but it still has the legacy.
This post was edited on 1/25/23 at 9:33 am
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
31949 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:34 am to
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Several food processing factories like the coffee plant.


Forgot about Folgers and Luzianne..

Hell, Folgers moved it headquarters from San Fransico to New Orleans.

A lot of the food processing plants moved after Katrina like Reily Foods, still HQ in NO, and Crystal Preserves, but are now in Elmwood.
This post was edited on 1/25/23 at 9:56 am
Posted by 427Nova
Member since Sep 2022
1722 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:37 am to
They’re worst cities. You could put most in a hat and pull out 20 and then do it again and both list would still be correct. It’s is definitely bottom 20.
Posted by Clint Torres
Member since Oct 2011
2832 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:38 am to
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and have NFL


Is Green Bay a major city?
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
31949 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:39 am to
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Is Green Bay a major city?


No, but the Packers are owned by the people of Green Bay. Only NFL franchise like it.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294782 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:40 am to
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They've been doing this for quite a while. It all breaks down because poorer people have a bigger struggle to exist. Struggle leads to looking for easy way to make a buck. Easy way to make a buck is illegal activity


I don't blame the young bucks for trying to grind and make it, even illegally.

It only bothers me when it hurts innocent people.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
17968 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:40 am to
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Is Green Bay a major city?


Does Green Bay have a second pro franchise? Also their franchise originated when the professional sport was in it's infancy so not as big of a barrier as all teams were starting on the ground floor.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
17968 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:44 am to
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It only bothers me when it hurts innocent people.


No doubt about it. I don't care for any of it. I mostly don' care about illegal drug sales but that leads into other nefarious activities like theft, murder, human trafficking, etc... Mostly the side effect that bothers me.

Mainly trying to express the point that if anyone else were in those same circumstances it'd be easy to fall into the same traps.

Really the exception to the rule are the immigrant communities who still manage to pull through while committing far less crime (violent) per person
Posted by r0cky1
Member since Oct 2020
4609 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:45 am to
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I dunno. I was recently in Seattle and I think that place is worse in its own special way.


Seattle has its problems but it runs circles around Nola / BR.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
31949 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:51 am to
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Seattle has its problems but it runs circles around Nola / BR.


Give us an example...

Seattle is Dying
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294782 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 9:53 am to
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Seattle has its problems but it runs circles around Nola / BR.


Not anymore.

Its not as shitty as LA (yet) but its not far behind.
Posted by Hobnailboot
Minneapolis
Member since Sep 2012
6094 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 10:03 am to
San Francisco is getting close
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
47642 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 10:16 am to
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Baltimore, St. Louis, Detroit and the other cities on the shite list are going to stay like they are forever. There is an antagonistic relationship between the poor and police. As long as that is the case, you're never going to get people in the hood or the trailer park to call the cops or give them information when something goes down.

I'm sure there's a way to change it, get more cops involved with community stuff, let the kids of the neighborhood see their face and whatnot, but that probably isn't going to happen. This is just going to be a problem for the foreseeable future


It's a cultural problem, not a police problem.
Posted by Bayou Blue Balls
Member since Jan 2023
8 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 10:17 am to
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It's just like taking a trip to a Mexican resort. Don't venture out of the resort.


What, you think the cartel’s gonna get ya?
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
17968 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 10:20 am to
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What, you think the cartel’s gonna get ya?


You think there are limits to what the cartels do or don't do? Kidnapping is their bread & butter. Ransom insurance was/is huge in Central and South America.
This post was edited on 1/25/23 at 10:21 am
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20637 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 10:26 am to
Progressive freaks from out of state have ruined that city. Came to NOLA to save us from ourselves and proclaimed themselves Naturally New Orleans because they went to Pat O's and Mardi Gras ..
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26385 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 10:50 am to
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Baltimore, St. Louis, Detroit and the other cities on the shite list are going to stay like they are forever. There is an antagonistic relationship between the poor and police. As long as that is the case, you're never going to get people in the hood or the trailer park to call the cops or give them information when something goes down


Unfortunately cops have become the main villains in society in the past 2 years nationwide. Even the Federal government has piled on with consent decrees, which destroy morale and kills recruitment for police departments.

So if you like those law enforcement issues St Louis and New Orleans - that’s going to be every city if this continues.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85546 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 10:58 am to
Does Jackson count? It is a capitol city.
This post was edited on 1/25/23 at 10:59 am
Posted by NOLA Tiger
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2006
840 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 11:00 am to
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Textron

Bollinger Ship Yards

Laitrem Intralox.. Technically in JP, but many employees who live in the city.

Michoud Assembly Facility

Port Of New Orleans

Entergy

Eagle Industries

Domino Sugar

Just to name a few... You can Google the rest.


Lots of small family owned companies and only one Fortune 500...and you failed to mention an "INDUSTRY" in the New Orleans area
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