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re: Is Ivermection effective for the common cold?

Posted on 12/23/24 at 9:40 am to
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
Member since Nov 2007
16749 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 9:40 am to
Creampie
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
39608 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 9:52 am to
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This double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled study says Ivermectin is no different than placebo


Alone, it doesn’t work.

As part of an ambulatory package (drug cocktail)…well, that wasn’t tested (except in the real world - where it worked in India, Brazil, and New Zealand…although they removed their data when threatened with a massive reduction in funding).



Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
39608 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 9:55 am to
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you get on here and CONFIDENTLY say American medical journals, publications where scientists put forth their own findings in order for those findings to be peer reviewed, all bullshite.


Lancet?

quote:

Specialist doctors with decades of lab experiments under their belts, incredible educations from the world's top colleges, continuing education, hands-on treatment of true patients using tried and true scientific methods of deducing theories


We’re banished if they chose to follow the science, instead of the narrative.

quote:

horse paste

There it is.

Stretch so you don’t pull your hamstrings while goose-stepping.
Posted by NyCaLa
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2014
1090 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 10:57 am to
Ivermectin, when used properly and in conjunction with other substances, can be an effective antiviral. I'm currently treating shingles this way. I seem to be way ahead of the curve at this point.
Posted by Bonkers119
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2015
11212 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 11:16 am to
It's effective if you're a horse.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4271 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 11:24 am to
“How about we let the people who have dedicated their entire lives to certain subjects be the experts of those subjects”

Like Dr.Fauci.How about Dr.Deborah Birx(scarf lady).On T.V urging people to get the Covid shot.I remember Fauci definitively saying if people get the “vax” they wouldn’t get Covid.How did that work out?
Cleveland Clinic did a study of their 52,000 emloyees,what they found was that the more shots their employees got the higher incidence of Covid infections.Look it up.Anecdotally,that has been my experience in my community.Lots of people in my church took 2,3,4 shot,they got Covid 2,3,4 times.

Dr.Birx in her memoir admitted they knew all along the Covid shot was not going to stop infections or prevent transmission,she and Fauci are both highly credentialed,didn’t stop them from lying out their arse.
The reason Dr.Birx retired was because before Thanksgiving 2019 she said
on TV that people should not have their normal celebration with friends and family “to stop the spread”.Yet she,a world-renowned AIDS researcher,traveled to her property in Delaware and celebrated with 4 generations of her family-her elderly parents,her grown children and her grandchildren.When exposed,she was embarrassed and retired.
Fauci( one of the world’s most frequently cited scientists across all scientific
journals from 1983 to 2002) is incapable of embarrassment.

“ You aren’t near as smart as you think you are,pal”
What do you think?,I just pull the things I say out of my arse.I read(a lot).Dr Robert Malone,Dr Peter McCullough,Dr,Geert Vanden Bossch,Dr.Harvey Risch..All highly credentialed but ostracized for not following the narrative as laid out by our corrupt medical establishment.
Dr Joseph Varon in Houston,worked more than 700 days as medical director of an ICU at the peak of Covid had one of the highest survival rates of any ICU in the U.S.What he did different is he gave his patients,among other drugs,ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine,both of which work best when given early on.He was getting pts.when they were seriously and critically ill.
Mary Talley Bowden,MD in Houston treated 1000’s of pts with ivermectin and lost only a few.was forced off staff by Houston Methodist Hospital which had vaccine mandates,like all hospitals.At one point Houston Methodist,was close to shutting down due large number of employees with Covid,that is with 100%,compliance with the Covid shot.

RFK,Jr in his book Vax-Unvaxed exposed that vaccines aren’t rigorously tested for safety.I was shocked by that,I always assumed they were.He documents everything he alleges with footnotes.Yet he is labeled as a anti-vaxxer which he is not.He testified in Congress that he takes yearly flu shot.His concern is the lack of safety testing.

I’m sorry you got butthurt by my quote of Marcia Angell MD,previous editor of NEJM :” It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published”
She is currently a corresponding member of the faculty of Global Health and Social Medicine at Harvard Medical School.
I repeat,that was her quote,not something I pulled out of my arse.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
8771 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 11:32 am to
quote:


“How about we let the people who have dedicated their entire lives to certain subjects be the experts of those subjects”

Like Dr.Fauci.How about Dr.Deborah Birx(scarf lady).On T.V urging people to get the Covid shot.I remember Fauci definitively saying if people get the “vax” they wouldn’t get Covid.How did that work out?
Cleveland Clinic did a study of their 52,000 emloyees,what they found was that the more shots their employees got the higher incidence of Covid infections.Look it up.Anecdotally,that has been my experience in my community.Lots of people in my church took 2,3,4 shot,they got Covid 2,3,4 times.

Dr.Birx in her memoir admitted they knew all along the Covid shot was not going to stop infections or prevent transmission,she and Fauci are both highly credentialed,didn’t stop them from lying out their arse.
The reason Dr.Birx retired was because before Thanksgiving 2019 she said
on TV that people should not have their normal celebration with friends and family “to stop the spread”.Yet she,a world-renowned AIDS researcher,traveled to her property in Delaware and celebrated with 4 generations of her family-her elderly parents,her grown children and her grandchildren.When exposed,she was embarrassed and retired.
Fauci( one of the world’s most frequently cited scientists across all scientific
journals from 1983 to 2002) is incapable of embarrassment.

“ You aren’t near as smart as you think you are,pal”
What do you think?,I just pull the things I say out of my arse.I read(a lot).Dr Robert Malone,Dr Peter McCullough,Dr,Geert Vanden Bossch,Dr.Harvey Risch..All highly credentialed but ostracized for not following the narrative as laid out by our corrupt medical establishment.
Dr Joseph Varon in Houston,worked more than 700 days as medical director of an ICU at the peak of Covid had one of the highest survival rates of any ICU in the U.S.What he did different is he gave his patients,among other drugs,ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine,both of which work best when given early on.He was getting pts.when they were seriously and critically ill.
Mary Talley Bowden,MD in Houston treated 1000’s of pts with ivermectin and lost only a few.was forced off staff by Houston Methodist Hospital which had vaccine mandates,like all hospitals.At one point Houston Methodist,was close to shutting down due large number of employees with Covid,that is with 100%,compliance with the Covid shot.

RFK,Jr in his book Vax-Unvaxed exposed that vaccines aren’t rigorously tested for safety.I was shocked by that,I always assumed they were.He documents everything he alleges with footnotes.Yet he is labeled as a anti-vaxxer which he is not.He testified in Congress that he takes yearly flu shot.His concern is the lack of safety testing.

I’m sorry you got butthurt by my quote of Marcia Angell MD,previous editor of NEJM :” It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published”
She is currently a corresponding member of the faculty of Global Health and Social Medicine at Harvard Medical School.
I repeat,that was her quote,not something I pulled out of my arse.


I didn't read any of this, but thanks for taking the time to copy and paste from some website!
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4271 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 11:44 am to
Of course you didn’t read it.You’ve drank the Kool Aid and are a confirmed advocate for our broken health care system.I sincerely hope you’re not a Dr..
I didn’t copy and paste anything,I spent 20 minutes typing all that out.
I have spent untold hours reading and researching,I’m retired and have the time.

If you prefer to wallow in your ignorance,that’s your prerogative,

You remind me of an old friend from high school.I brought him a copy of an article by Dr.Geert Vanden Bossche in which he warned of the dangers of mass vaccination in the middle of a pandemic and recommended against it.
Friend read it,said “I don’t believe that”
He took total of 4 shots,got Covid and spent 2 months in the hospital,2 weeks of that was in ICU.
He was someone in good health,no co-morbities.

Ignorance is bliss. until it isn’t.
This post was edited on 12/23/24 at 11:55 am
Posted by ithad2bme
Houston transplant from B.R.
Member since Sep 2008
3535 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

Ivermectin, when used properly and in conjunction with other substances, can be an effective antiviral.


Yep, I wonder why he didn't post a study like this one and instead posted one that was designed to deliver an outcome?
Posted by Swazla
Member since Jul 2016
1648 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 12:24 pm to
Zinc.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104077 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 12:24 pm to
bullshite for those that say it doesn’t work for the cold

My proof ivermectin works for the cold

Last year I had a nasty cold for 3 days. On the fourth day I took ivermectin. 2 days later I was feeling better. lol at any idiot saying it doesn’t work
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
Member since Nov 2007
16749 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 1:15 pm to
Creampie
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
15799 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 1:34 pm to
It is not
Posted by Lsukinesalum2001
Member since Sep 2022
27 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 1:41 pm to
I think Covid brought out our distrust of the healthcare system. I work with chronic pain patients daily and see so many elderly people addicted to opiates. Look at how the opioid epidemic started… doctors giving meds unnecessarily to patients. We all have good reason to not trust healthcare in this country. I believe there are much better natural solutions out there but there is no money to be made on it.
This post was edited on 12/23/24 at 1:47 pm
Posted by lockthevaught
Member since Jan 2013
2598 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 1:53 pm to
I understand how you would come to this conclusion after taking Ivermectin, but how are you so sure that your body and immune system didn't handle this on its own?

It usually takes about 4-5 days to get over rona without taking anything.

BTW not saying anyone is wrong or right. I keep an open mind with this kind of shite. If it works or even if it made you feel like it works....thats really all that matters. I apologize for my skepticism. I'm the type that has lost faith in modern medicine and don't think anything really works except our immune systems.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
15675 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 2:26 pm to
One of the safest drugs around. Would not hurt you but I dont know if it would help either.

Posted by LSUtwolves
Member since Jun 2016
1069 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 2:30 pm to
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when our own government says it is very effective against Covid


“Despite this promise, the antiviral activity of ivermectin has not been consistently proven in vivo”

From your own article fricking moron

But really take whatever you wanna take. If it’s not hurting someone else, do you
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
36282 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 3:55 pm to
It works. Livestock and humans.

Get over it.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
13243 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 4:08 pm to
quote:

So... pretty much equal to, if not actually better than, the vaccine, huh?


Yeah! Without the Myocarditis and other damaging side effects.
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
2802 posts
Posted on 12/23/24 at 6:46 pm to
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