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re: Is it unethical to use vacation days after giving 2 weeks notice
Posted on 2/27/17 at 9:08 pm to goldennugget
Posted on 2/27/17 at 9:08 pm to goldennugget
Use your vacation. You earned it.
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 9:18 pm to goldennugget
Not paying you for accrued pto is a violation of federal employment law
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:50 pm to goldennugget
Yes.
Two weeks notice means that. Now I don't see a problem with squeezing out unpaid hours prior to giving it, but if you aren't going to work for the two weeks you might as well just walk away. Most companies will treat you the same regardless if you try to use them as a referral.
Two weeks notice means that. Now I don't see a problem with squeezing out unpaid hours prior to giving it, but if you aren't going to work for the two weeks you might as well just walk away. Most companies will treat you the same regardless if you try to use them as a referral.
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:52 pm to ccomeaux
No it isn't 
They merely have to keep up with their promises. It is very possible to have paid time off that can't be paid out on termination. For instance, my place of work separates vacation (which is paid out) and sick time (which isn't)
They merely have to keep up with their promises. It is very possible to have paid time off that can't be paid out on termination. For instance, my place of work separates vacation (which is paid out) and sick time (which isn't)
Posted on 2/27/17 at 10:58 pm to goldennugget
quote:They have to be approved for every company I've ever been associated with.
I have 5 vacation days that I won't get paid out for. Would it be in bad taste to use any of them.
As your boss I'd simply deny them.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 5:09 am to goldennugget
Does it screw up your boss and will they ever be a reference
Posted on 2/28/17 at 5:17 am to llfshoals
They will just count it as a vacation and reduce payout for the days they actually have to pay you for
Posted on 2/28/17 at 5:23 am to thelawnwranglers
quote:Not if I don't approve the time off.
They will just count it as a vacation and reduce payout for the days they actually have to pay you for
It's a call out or NCNS in that case and I don't have to pay it.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 6:05 am to goldennugget
When I left my last job, I gave two MONTHs notice. No one knew why at first, until I started coming in for 10-15 hours a week.
I had weeks of vacation saved. I used all but one hour.
I had weeks of vacation saved. I used all but one hour.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 6:14 am to goldennugget
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Gave my 2 weeks notice today and my last day is Friday March 10 I have 5 vacation days that I won't get paid out for. Would it be in bad taste to use any of them.
Anyone with 1/2 a brain would have used those 5 vacation days, THEN given a 2 week notice.
Just can't take the trash out of some people.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 6:15 am to goldennugget
Yes, because most people cash them out after they leave. Take your two weeks or more after your last day with the cashed out vacation time.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 7:20 am to CoachDon
It pretty much defeats the purpose of giving a two week notice if you do this. You are trying to leave on good terms by giving a two week notice. I would have taken the time before giving the notice or I would have given a month notice and told them that you need to use the week for something in that month.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 7:21 am to goldennugget
I suspect in your case, your boss and co-workers would appreciate and encourage it.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 7:32 am to llfshoals
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Not if I don't approve the time off.
It's a call out or NCNS in that case and I don't have to pay it.
not sure we are saying something different
sounds like he has 5 days they don't accrue and pay out at his termination, and they have some pocket of days they have accrued and will pay out.
If he takes a day in the 2 week notice I wouldn't be surprised if they took it from the pocket of days they have to pay for. Who knows
Posted on 2/28/17 at 7:58 am to goldennugget
Use it or lose it
Posted on 2/28/17 at 7:58 am to cas4t
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what if they, you know, were actually good at their job
Exactly what I was thinking
God forbid an employer give a recommendation of an employee based upon how they performed what they were paid to do.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:05 am to TimeOutdoors
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Defeats the purpose of a two weeks notice if you aren't going to be there anyway.
This. It's a pain in the arse when an employee puts in 2 week notice and then wants to take vacation. That 2 weeks is to find and train a new employee, preferably by the outgoing person if they're any good. If not, then you're paying the outgoing person, the new employee who knows nothing yet, and another person to train them. Basically paying 3 people and getting no work done. I changed my office policy after getting burned by this.
That being said, usually the outgoing person is pretty worthless once they put in 2 weeks notice. If they're quitting it probably wasn't a good fit anyway. In some cases you want them gone instead of lounging around the office distracting other employees.
This post was edited on 2/28/17 at 8:14 am
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:14 am to EvrybodysAllAmerican
I hate to tell you, but chances are you don't give a frick about your employees so my advice to the OP is do what's best you, not the company or especially your boss.
You'd fire somebody today if you were told to or thought it would increase your status and wouldn't lose any sleep over it. Regardless if termination was warranted or not.
You'd fire somebody today if you were told to or thought it would increase your status and wouldn't lose any sleep over it. Regardless if termination was warranted or not.
This post was edited on 2/28/17 at 8:14 am
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:19 am to yellowfin
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I don't allow people to work out 2 weeks. Thank them for the courtesy and escort them out of the building
We pay unused vacation though
Same. We got burned on a workers comp claim once when a guy "injured" his toe on the last day of his two weeks. Now our policy is to thank them and tell them to move on. Nothing personal. Just business.
Posted on 2/28/17 at 8:23 am to TIGRLEE
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but chances are you don't give a frick about your employees so my advice to the OP is do what's best you, not the company or especially your boss.
It works both ways bro. Asking employees to not leave the company in a bind is not asking a lot. I treat my employees fairly and ask that they treat the company fairly. Nobody said they cant take the vacation, or get paid for unused vacation, but doing it during hiring/training of a new employee is terrible timing and a huge inconvenience for everyone else.
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