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Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:27 am to BugAC
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Do they have class ranking in CM? Something else i've never really heard of.
There is no official ranking, but it was pretty obvious who the "shining stars" were so to speak in our class.
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Well then you and your friends are in the extreme minority. Expecting to make 70k out of college is disillusioning yourself. Average starting salary, i would say, is probably 55 to 60 right now.
Agreed we are in the minority. But thats not what you said now is it? Also, if the average is 60, that means that some are making less than 60 and some are making more than 60. For every 50k there is a 70k. So not sure why it is so hard to believe.
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 11:29 am
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:28 am to The Torch
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I have several friends who are Project Managers in construction, they have no degree and make 100K +.
That's fairly impressive. I've only been in industrial but I've never met a PM that didn't have some type of bachelors degree. Most companies consider them part of upper management and they like them to not only be field educated but college educated too.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:46 am to BugAC
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Starting pay is NEVER in the 70k range. Unless you benefit from nepotism.
Starting pay in the mid 2000's was mid 40's. Adjust for inflation, it's probably low to mid 50's right now. But the opportunity for advancement is great.
You don't know what you're talking about. I highly doubt you even work in the CM field or know anyone in the field currently as these were numbers from the early 2000's.
Some numbers I have gathered over the course of the year is :
Residential: 32,000 flat
Commercial: 45,000-60,000 w/ weak arse per diem
Heavy Highway/Civil: ~80,000 w/ truck allowance & gas card
Industrial: ~ 70,000
Offshore: 100,000-110,000
Posted on 8/16/19 at 12:22 pm to BarryMcCokner
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I highly doubt you even work in the CM field or know anyone in the field currently as these were numbers from the early 2000's.
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Some numbers I have gathered over the course of the year is :
Residential: 32,000 flat
Commercial: 45,000-60,000 w/ weak arse per diem
Heavy Highway/Civil: ~80,000 w/ truck allowance & gas card
Industrial: ~ 70,000
Offshore: 100,000-110,000
I'm talking base salary. Not salary + per diem + COLA's + OT. Base salary. Which is what you are hired on...base salary. Which is the only consistent in your pay.
70k, does not happen, base salary. The other poster saying "we knew who the top guys were"...my CM class was a hell of a lot more laid back than yours, and no one gave a shite about "class rankings" because they really didn't exist.
Starting salary field engineer in BR - $57k
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 8/16/19 at 12:32 pm to TunaTime
Is this the thread where a bunch of glorified schedulers and box checkers argue over their pay?
Posted on 8/16/19 at 12:32 pm to Tigahhs97
You trade high salaries for long hours and a nomad life style with almost no job security or stability. It’s a lot like working in the oil field, but lower pay, less hazardous, and a little less volatile. I eventually decided that I didn’t like the lack of stability and changed careers.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 12:34 pm to Gray12
Man 70k right out of school isn’t happening. Starting pay can range anywhere from 40 - 60k
Posted on 8/16/19 at 12:41 pm to philly444
You can always use construction management to get in project controls.
Industrial project controls positions pay very well. Cost engineer, schedulers, planners, project control managers, etc.
Industrial project controls positions pay very well. Cost engineer, schedulers, planners, project control managers, etc.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 12:50 pm to BugAC
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Starting pay is NEVER in the 70k range. Unless you benefit from nepotism.
Brasfield, Harbert International, Hoar, Robins & Morton ( all B'Ham GC) are paying AU BSC grads 65K-75K.
Granted AU BSC is only graduating maybe 50 a semester and weeds thru the dregs early, so these graduating guys (girls) are sporting 3.75+ GPAs and are fully emmersed in the program.
If you want to work at Harbert International doing embassy work, you literally have to be a brain-surgeon with a BSC degree, with no baggage.
I know a guy about 26-27 (S.Miss CE grad) went to work in facility management at an national pump/lumber in BFE and was pulling, with fringes, about 100+
Coming out of say Southen Miss (nothing wrong with that at all, they just don't get the wow factor) and working for "B" player G.C.s the range is in the $40's + some fringes (health, truck, 401K match, etc)
I have no idea were the LSU BSC school ranks or what the "A" level Lousiana GCs pay.
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What’s the ceiling in the field?
President of the company, or start your own business.
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 8/16/19 at 12:56 pm to BugAC
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The other poster saying "we knew who the top guys were"...my CM class was a hell of a lot more laid back than yours, and no one gave a shite about "class rankings" because they really didn't exist.
Once again, go back and read what i said. I said there were no official class rankings, but its easy to separate the slapdicks from the ones who have some intelligence and potential. If you were in cm at lsu, you know exactly what i mean. And once again, i never argued about the average salary. Just saying that the top people in my class who were worth a frick started above 70k.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 12:58 pm to Areddishfish
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tarting pay, realistically is $55k to $60k.
Yeah, if you work for Performance.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 12:58 pm to Mr Wonderful
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Is this the thread where a bunch of glorified schedulers and box checkers argue over their pay?
Coming from a lawyer this is quite entertaining.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 12:59 pm to BugAC
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70k, does not happen, base salary. The other poster saying "we knew who the top guys were"...my CM class was a hell of a lot more laid back than yours, and no one gave a shite about "class rankings" because they really didn't exist.
Yeah, not sure what the hell they are talking about with class rankings, but I agree with everything you said.
And I would venture to say even the slapdicks I graduated with who went into actual construction and not landscaping or some other residential bs trade are doing well for themselves today.
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 8/16/19 at 1:01 pm to Tigahhs97
I graduated in December and am making 55k right now. I have a very comfortable desk job with every friday off and 4 weeks paid vacation a year. I could have gone the field route and made 70 to 100k depending on hours. I did have trade and fabrication experience before I graduated. My brother is making about 140k a year 7 years after he graduated, he did get an MBA after graduation.
If you're single and want to stack cash go the field route. I'm still thinking about it but I'm so freaking comfortable where I'm at.
I work for a GC, they start fresh LSU grads in the field at 30 to 35 an hour depending on the jobsite. They are billing their hours so they aren't losing that much money if they suck
If you're single and want to stack cash go the field route. I'm still thinking about it but I'm so freaking comfortable where I'm at.
I work for a GC, they start fresh LSU grads in the field at 30 to 35 an hour depending on the jobsite. They are billing their hours so they aren't losing that much money if they suck
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 8/16/19 at 1:02 pm to Marlo Stanfield
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70k, does not happen, base salary. The other poster saying "we knew who the top guys were"...my CM class was a hell of a lot more laid back than yours, and no one gave a shite about "class rankings" because they really didn't exist.
Yeah, not sure what the hell they are talking about with class rankings, but I agree with everything you said.
Yall are some illiterate mfers.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 1:04 pm to TunaTime
I switched to a PM position at 27 and was making $53K/yr.
My degree and background was not in an even remotely similar field, but I needed a change. I’m enjoying it. Been doing it for 2 years now.
My degree and background was not in an even remotely similar field, but I needed a change. I’m enjoying it. Been doing it for 2 years now.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 1:05 pm to TunaTime
When I was in school, the overachiever/teacher kissasses you are referring to are probably schedulers or cost control people somewhere sitting in a cubicle still to this day. No personality at all and can’t relate to normal people.
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 8/16/19 at 1:05 pm to Gray12
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You are looking at the 70s for starting pay
This is false if we're talking about a straight 40 hour work week
I graduated in December and only people making plus 60 were going straight into the field working 50-70 hours plus per diem. Desk job estimating somewhere fresh out you're looking at 50-60k depending on internships/previous experience. There is money to be made and you can position yourself onto many different paths. My company asked me to move and I jumped at it for experience and to be in their good graces. Hopefully it all pays off.
I work for a large industrial sub.
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 8/16/19 at 1:15 pm to Marlo Stanfield
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schedulers or cost control people somewhere sitting in a cubicle still to this day. No personality at all and can’t relate to normal people.
Schedulers should spend a good portion of their time in the field. At least for field schedulers.
Even the cost people are expected to get out in the field some for audits or viewing progress. Not as bad as you make it out to sound.
Your 2nd statement is kind of harsh.
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