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re: Is anyone else extremely paranoid about dating apps?
Posted on 4/5/17 at 3:31 am to athenslife101
Posted on 4/5/17 at 3:31 am to athenslife101
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You have no fricking clue who you're talking to. I have lost out on dates because I take forever to ask them out. I wish I grew up in the days before this shite was the norm and people actually interacted in person.
Extreme vetting is the way to do it
If she only has pics of her face she is fat
Old maxim = if you got it, flaunt it
If a girl has a nice arse or body or face she will be showing it off in her pics, not hiding it
If her pictures are all cropped and edited and at weird angles she is hiding something
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Posted on 4/5/17 at 3:39 am to goldennugget
Don't forget the above pics facing down. The males are easily fooled. Also if they don't say athletic build they are full figured or fat. I don't mind a little jiggle in the booty area though 
Posted on 4/5/17 at 5:17 am to athenslife101
It's also for losers who have no game so there's that
Posted on 4/5/17 at 5:22 am to athenslife101
Use craigslist. Much less fake people.
Posted on 4/5/17 at 5:52 am to 20MuleTeam
I wouldn't say dating apps/sites are for losers.
The problem with dating sites is that it takes the 80/20 rule and turns it into almost a 90/10 rule.
(For those of you who don't know. The 80/20 rule is that 20% of the men get 80% of the women.)
This is because on dating sites/dating apps, women, even the ugly ones and the fat ones, can be really picky. Before dating sites women who went out to bars or whatever had to be realistic about the type of men they could get. But dating sites means that they can window shop and hold out for a higher value man. Completely tips the scales.
Therefore the ONLY thing that matters on dating apps/dating sites is if you are attractive. That's it. You can have the most interesting profile and wittiest openers but you will never even get women to read those things if they don't find you attractive.
Even ugly women get tons of matches on Tinder and tons of inboxes on sites like OKCupid and POF. This girl I worked with in Iowa was a 3/10 at best and each time she logged onto POF and OKCupid and other sites she had 100+ messages in her inbox from thirsty men. If even the ugliest women are getting that much attention, think about how much the attractive ones get. Therefore you have to stand out somehow. And you can really only do that by being attractive
The problem with dating sites is that it takes the 80/20 rule and turns it into almost a 90/10 rule.
(For those of you who don't know. The 80/20 rule is that 20% of the men get 80% of the women.)
This is because on dating sites/dating apps, women, even the ugly ones and the fat ones, can be really picky. Before dating sites women who went out to bars or whatever had to be realistic about the type of men they could get. But dating sites means that they can window shop and hold out for a higher value man. Completely tips the scales.
Therefore the ONLY thing that matters on dating apps/dating sites is if you are attractive. That's it. You can have the most interesting profile and wittiest openers but you will never even get women to read those things if they don't find you attractive.
Even ugly women get tons of matches on Tinder and tons of inboxes on sites like OKCupid and POF. This girl I worked with in Iowa was a 3/10 at best and each time she logged onto POF and OKCupid and other sites she had 100+ messages in her inbox from thirsty men. If even the ugliest women are getting that much attention, think about how much the attractive ones get. Therefore you have to stand out somehow. And you can really only do that by being attractive
Posted on 4/5/17 at 7:10 am to athenslife101
Grinder is a bitch I agree
Posted on 4/5/17 at 7:22 am to athenslife101
Not sure which ones you're talking about. But Tinder and Bumble are night and day regarding this. About half the profiles on Tinder are spam bots. Haven't come across one yet on Bumble. But as another person pointed out, if you can't immediately pick out the bots then you have issues.
Posted on 4/5/17 at 7:27 am to athenslife101
I once used the app to match with a chick. Was driving around really having to take a crap. I asked her to if I could come over and she agreed. When I got there I immediately went to the bathroom and blew it up. 5 minutes after I finished, I told her this wasn't for me and left her house 
This post was edited on 4/5/17 at 7:29 am
Posted on 4/5/17 at 7:29 am to goldennugget
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Therefore the ONLY thing that matters on dating apps/dating sites is if you are attractive. That's it. You can have the most interesting profile and wittiest openers but you will never even get women to read those things if they don't find you attractive.
Yall be hating on nugget but he drops them truth bombs everyday lol...
Posted on 4/5/17 at 7:31 am to Hammertime
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I had a hot chick ask me out last weekend.
Pics or it didn't happen.
Posted on 4/5/17 at 7:54 am to goldennugget
Wow, you get an upvote for that one. I'd say it is a minimum of 90/10, but more than likely 98/2.
This is what I have been told from both good looking and not good looking girl friends. Keep in mind, this is across two different cities with around 300k people each:
After opening a few messages each day, they start looking at pictures before opening them. Don't like what they see? They don't open it.
If they do open it, you have two or three sentences to get them to want to write back. They don't have time to read your life story.
They get too many messages to read every one. The uglier girls read most (I'm guessing it's an ego boost).
They all say they don't want to see shirtless selfies. What they mean is don't get naked in your garbage arse bathroom and flex it out for your pictures. They still wanna see your abs, just not like that.
When they signed up, they initially got 100-200 messages each day that week. After that, the better looking ones leveled off at around 50/day, and the ugly ones get 30/day.
The good looking ones usually end up getting overwhelmed and quitting within a week or two.
Ugly ones most definitely go after much better looking guys. Don't let them do that. If she's got something wrong with her, tell her. It's not like her pot belly that she's hiding in pictures magically goes away when you meet IRL.
Better looking girls have gone out with and dated me, so I guess they date down
This is what I have been told from both good looking and not good looking girl friends. Keep in mind, this is across two different cities with around 300k people each:
After opening a few messages each day, they start looking at pictures before opening them. Don't like what they see? They don't open it.
If they do open it, you have two or three sentences to get them to want to write back. They don't have time to read your life story.
They get too many messages to read every one. The uglier girls read most (I'm guessing it's an ego boost).
They all say they don't want to see shirtless selfies. What they mean is don't get naked in your garbage arse bathroom and flex it out for your pictures. They still wanna see your abs, just not like that.
When they signed up, they initially got 100-200 messages each day that week. After that, the better looking ones leveled off at around 50/day, and the ugly ones get 30/day.
The good looking ones usually end up getting overwhelmed and quitting within a week or two.
Ugly ones most definitely go after much better looking guys. Don't let them do that. If she's got something wrong with her, tell her. It's not like her pot belly that she's hiding in pictures magically goes away when you meet IRL.
Better looking girls have gone out with and dated me, so I guess they date down
This post was edited on 4/5/17 at 7:57 am
Posted on 4/5/17 at 8:03 am to athenslife101
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I wish I grew up in the days before this shite was the norm and people actually interacted in person.
People still do interact in person. Just look for the girls who don't have their eyes permanently fixed to their phone screen.
Posted on 4/5/17 at 8:12 am to athenslife101
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Is anyone else extremely paranoid about dating apps?
I am. They've already got one of my kidneys; they sure as hell aren't getting the other one.
Posted on 4/5/17 at 8:14 am to Hammertime
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They all say they don't want to see shirtless selfies. What they mean is don't get naked in your garbage arse bathroom and flex it out for your pictures. They still wanna see your abs, just not like that.
It's a classic shite test, women are covert with their actions, listen to what they do, not what they say. They will put in their profile they aren't interested in shirtless selfies, but this is to weed out the betas, not because they aren't interested. Betas will see the shirtless selfie disclaimer and withdraw, non betas will not give a shite about seeing such a message and hit her up anyway. Same with "not looking for hookups!" disclaimers. Another shite test. Translation: "I have been pumped and dumped by Chad too many times in the past, so I am not interested in hookups(unless you make me wet)". Betas will see that and move on, non betas will message her anyway.
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If they do open it, you have two or three sentences to get them to want to write back. They don't have time to read your life story.
This is how I always operate on Tinder or when I get a girl's number. The Rule of 3. You have 3 messages to arrange a meetup or get her number. Kind of like a genie and 3 wishes. So pick what you say wisely. Generally my first message is an opener, either simply "Hi" or complimenting something about her, such as "Nice arse". My 2nd message is a response to what she replies with, and message #3 is either getting her number or arranging a place to meet. Watching women I know use Tinder it makes me cringe how so many men seem to think the way to go is try to get to know her first and ask her a billion questions and carry on a long arse conversation before escalating to actually getting a number or a meet up. shite or get off the pot. She will eventually get bored and move onto a man who is actually being direct with his intentions and not beating around the bush if you don't make a move.
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Ugly ones most definitely go after much better looking guys. Don't let them do that. If she's got something wrong with her, tell her. It's not like her pot belly that she's hiding in pictures magically goes away when you meet IRL.
I don't match ugly women, I make sure they are 100% without a doubt not fat and look like they would in pictures. I need full body shots and different angles. With that being said I have matched women who used older pics, and when I meet them in person they have gained weight. This is why I stress to make your first meet up to be something ultra casual, something you were planning on doing anyway and just inviting her to join you. That way if it goes bad you still did something you were already going to do. Meetup #1 with girls from Tinder are always just a pre-screen, Meetup #2 is when I take it more seriously.
Posted on 4/5/17 at 8:26 am to athenslife101
I've had some success when I used it in the past, but I tried using it a few months ago and it's just too many non-attractive girls to sort through to find one attractive chick.
Posted on 4/5/17 at 8:33 am to athenslife101
I wouldn't be as paranoid about who I could/would meet via a dating app as I would be about what data would be released about me when the dating app is inevitably hacked.
Because you know they will be. There's always some a-hole out there looking to make you pay, just for trying to live your life.
Because you know they will be. There's always some a-hole out there looking to make you pay, just for trying to live your life.
Posted on 4/5/17 at 8:33 am to goldennugget
quote:Once I start talking to a girl, it is always longer than 3 messages. Otherwise, you won't know if you're wasting your time or not. They are also trying to vet you before going out. Idk the protocol for Tinder b/c I don't use it.
The Rule of 3. You have 3 messages to arrange a meetup or get her number
quote:From what the girls have told me, there is no situation where a normal girl would answer back if that's what you wrote her. Those are the majority of the messages they get, and I'm guessing that's why they get frustrated with the whole process.
Generally my first message is an opener, either simply "Hi" or complimenting something about her, such as "Nice arse"
Your whole beta shirtless argument is ridiculous.
1) you don't need a shirtless pic to get girls
2) "betas" are proud of their abs too
3) being "alpha" doesn't mean you're ripped
Also, the girls that say they aren't looking for hookups generally are, and who wants to date a trashy chick? If I wanted to just hook up with a chick, I'd go to a bar
Posted on 4/5/17 at 8:43 am to sweetwaterbilly
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Haven't come across one yet on Bumble.
Isn't Bumble the one where the female has to initiate contact? That might be why. A bot would be too easy to identify.
This post was edited on 4/5/17 at 8:44 am
Posted on 4/5/17 at 8:49 am to athenslife101
Sorry grindr isn't working out for you.
Posted on 4/5/17 at 9:02 am to Hammertime
What sites are you using?
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