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re: IOS 13.5 Contact tracing..

Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:14 am to
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:14 am to
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IOS 13.5

I thought this was gonna be a Cisco thread. Carry on.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
44845 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:15 am to
They've been tracing you for years. They know everything you do, everyone you see, where you go, what you buy, and when. Not saying I like it, but contact tracing isn't any different than what they already have on you.
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
10942 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:17 am to
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They've been tracing you for years. They know everything you do, everyone you see, where you go, what you buy, and when. Not saying I like it, but contact tracing isn't any different than what they already have on you.


Again, Then why is this a NEW feature?
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54836 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:19 am to
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Then why is it a new feature?
The two companies have joined to create alerts, if you opt in, using tracking that has been a part of their phones for many years. The level of invasion into your privacy isn't new.

Simple people just hear buzz words like contact tracing and flip out.
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
10942 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:21 am to
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Simple people just hear buzz words like contact tracing and flip out.


You still haven't address the second part of the quote have you? Ill post it again so you can respond:

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At some point in the future, Apple and Google will build this functionality directly into the operating systems of their phones so that you can be notified that you may have been exposed to COVID-19 even if you don’t have an exposure notification app installed on your phone.
This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 7:23 am
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31209 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:24 am to
Does it automatically run or do I have to enable it?
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54836 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:35 am to
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At some point in the future, Apple and Google will build this functionality directly into the operating systems of their phones so that you can be notified that you may have been exposed to COVID-19 even if you don’t have an exposure notification app installed on your phone.
Just turn off your Bluetooth when you aren't using it or get rid of your phone. Again, this isn't a new invasion of your privacy. It's consistent with the ongoing invasion of your privacy that you volunteer for by purchasing and using these products.

FWIW, I don't think this contact tracing will work. It relies on users to download and opt in. To be effective, I've read that 60% or more of phone owners would need to participate for it to be effective. Also, how will it prevent people from intentionally misleading the system by reporting false Covid diagnosis?
Posted by JS87
Member since Aug 2010
17595 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:42 am to
"Welcome to the Borg. Resistance is futile,"

Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60568 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:42 am to
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Hey, but I guess if nobody else cares then we deserve everything we get when the government decides you are a risk and quarantines you or your kids.

you could choose to not have a cell phone
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44120 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:45 am to
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you could choose to not have a cell phone



For those of you saying this, do you also hold the same beliefs in terms of Net Neutrality? As in if you don't like what ISPs do, you can choose to not have internet?

Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
10670 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 7:53 am to
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Just turn off your Bluetooth when you aren't using it or get rid of your phone.


Contact tracing utilizes BLE, not Bluetooth.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
44845 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 8:06 am to
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Again, Then why is this a NEW feature?
Because "contact tracing" is a new term (I think). It's the cool covid buzzword now.
Posted by Fat Batman
Gotham City, NJ
Member since Oct 2019
1598 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 8:06 am to
This also has the potential to pave the way for Apple/Google/Overseer to have access to medical records "for the good of the people". Since, in its current form, their contact tracing plan is very inefficient relying on people to be willing to take the time, know how and volunteer report their COVID status or other health risk.

Silver lining though...It would be cool if your phone could alert you if you were about to bang some broad with an STD.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54836 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 8:06 am to
BLE (Bluetooth low energy)is Bluetooth technology, just using less battery. Can you not disable ble?
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 8:07 am to
Sooooo...when do we start getting rid of the phones?
Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
10670 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 8:20 am to
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BLE (Bluetooth low energy)is Bluetooth technology, just using less battery. Can you not disable ble?


You can, but the point was that simply disabling Bluetooth won't prevent BLE from functioning.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 8:45 am to
HIPPA
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54836 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 8:46 am to
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HIPPA
I assume you are referring to HIPAA. I'm not an expert on HIPAA. How does that come in to play here?
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 8:48 am to
If the app tells you that 1 of your contacts as Corona virus that is a violation of Hippa which protects your medical information
Spent some warning giving your medical information out to someone else who isn't ok'd by you is a direct violation of HIPAA
This post was edited on 5/21/20 at 8:50 am
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18778 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 8:50 am to
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They've been tracing you for years. They know everything you do, everyone you see, where you go, what you buy, and when. Not saying I like it, but contact tracing isn't any different than what they already have on you.



Only the dims that give the apps on their phones all the permissions they ask for and keep the GPS receiver active. Most of you suck when it comes to even basic cyber security practices.
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