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re: Investigators When they KNEW Murdaugh lied (Page 112)
Posted on 2/28/23 at 6:23 pm to KosmoCramer
Posted on 2/28/23 at 6:23 pm to KosmoCramer
Extraction isn’t nearly the same as ballistics but regardless the fact that it was a .300 BO is convincing enough
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Posted on 2/28/23 at 6:37 pm to TDsngumbo
Correct no guns found, but family gun involved based on the .300 blackout shells found at the scene and elsewhere on the property.
Suppose they were reported stolen?
Suppose they were reported stolen?
This post was edited on 2/28/23 at 6:38 pm
Posted on 2/28/23 at 7:26 pm to AGGIES
Not stolen but check this out (someone correct me if I’m mistaken)…..
Buster and Paul both got .300 blackouts with thermal scopes for Christmas. At some point, Paul’s went missing. They replaced it with another .300 blackout but put a red dot on it instead of the thermal scope.
Buster and Paul both got .300 blackouts with thermal scopes for Christmas. At some point, Paul’s went missing. They replaced it with another .300 blackout but put a red dot on it instead of the thermal scope.
This post was edited on 2/28/23 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 2/28/23 at 8:07 pm to clownbaby
Jim Griffin doing the closing arguments for the defense tomorrow…kind of surprising.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 8:31 pm to gravy553
Because harpootlian has that "Hey, kid , get off my yar look" all the time.
But I think it has more to do with Harpootlian's comment when Alex decided to take the stand, it was something like you could have fooled me when he did that.
But I think it has more to do with Harpootlian's comment when Alex decided to take the stand, it was something like you could have fooled me when he did that.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 8:32 pm to clownbaby
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Hold on a second. I hadn’t heard the ballistic information before. That the shells found around Maggie matched some “weathered” shells found in the flowerbed.
They found shells with similar markings all over the estate. They not only shot at targets away from the house, but also off of the back porch.
That includes guests. They don’t know those bullets were fired from the missing rifle.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 8:38 pm to riverdiver
I’m just saying that was the first time I heard that, and it cleared up my confusion on why they have been trying to say AM provided the murder weapon.
My opinion was that if AM didn’t pull the trigger, whoever did would’ve brought their own weapons. I didn’t understand the whole “they grabbed a gun that was already there” narrative until today.
My opinion was that if AM didn’t pull the trigger, whoever did would’ve brought their own weapons. I didn’t understand the whole “they grabbed a gun that was already there” narrative until today.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:38 pm to clownbaby
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Buster and Paul both got .300 blackouts with thermal scopes for Christmas. At some point, Paul’s went missing. They replaced it with another .300 blackout but put a red dot on it instead of the thermal scope.
The Netflix documentary talks about how many guns this family owned.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:41 pm to gravy553
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Jim Griffin doing the closing arguments for the defense tomorrow…kind of surprising.
I heard a podcast discussing it. Apparently if they are going for a long closing argument, Griffin may have more stamina.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:08 pm to clownbaby
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One of the investigative reporters did the math and said if all the money AM paid cousin Eddie was for oxy, he would have 114 years worth.
I saw that. Maybe I’m wrong or ignorant, I don’t claim to know a lot about street drugs, but isn’t it possible Eddie was marking up the drug price significantly?
He’s got this guy who, to his knowledge, has basically unlimited funds. I would think it’s pretty hard to just go to someone else for drugs if you’re AM and trying to keep this a secret. You already trust Eddie. Eddie knows all this and AM is a golden goose for Eddie.
I mean if that the case, any math based on street value of the drug is meaningless
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:18 pm to Tigerfan56
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I saw that. Maybe I’m wrong or ignorant, I don’t claim to know a lot about street drugs, but isn’t it possible Eddie was marking up the drug price significantly?
The drug thing is a con imo. Alex was used to a certain lifestyle, which couldn't be maintained when the SC legislature changed its venue statute for civil litigation. That cost the Murdaugh's firm a ton of business. And given Hampton County's rural location and high rate of poverty, I'd wager that Alex's entire scheme began due to lifestyle maintenance, not drug addiction.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:29 pm to Tigerfan56
It doesn’t make any sense that Murdaugh would be relying on drug proceeds to fuel the type of lavish lifestyle he enjoyed. It makes more sense that the percentages that he was taking from each one of the insurance settlements would be immensely higher. From what I’ve read, Murdaugh wasn’t pushing enough weight to make the type of money he was accustomed to, in order to sustain his lifestyle, from a monetary prospective.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 3:31 am to MBclass83
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No way can an "addict" function in a productive manner for that many years.
That's not true. I know a high functioning engineer who is a heroin addict and has been for many years.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 3:40 am to SCLibertarian
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I'd wager that Alex's entire scheme began due to lifestyle maintenance, not drug addiction.
Wait, is the implication here that the wife and son had gotten to expensive to keep? That would be cold-blooded already cold blood. Double cold-blooded.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 8:07 am to SCLibertarian
quote:AM uses the Rx pills story because it is so common in being not the persons fault-they were in pain once and got hooked.
The drug thing is a con imo. Alex was used to a certain lifestyle, which couldn't be maintained when the SC legislature changed its venue statute for civil litigation. That cost the Murdaugh's firm a ton of business. And given Hampton County's rural location and high rate of poverty, I'd wager that Alex's entire scheme began due to lifestyle maintenance, not drug addiction.
Cousin Eddie was busted with meth. Can anyone see in photos when AM lost all of the weight? That is most likely when he moved on to meth/cocaine, no?
Posted on 3/1/23 at 8:15 am to cajunangelle
His weight loss in prison has been remarkable.
Could the impoverished county have a new way to raise funds: weight loss confinement?
Could the impoverished county have a new way to raise funds: weight loss confinement?
Posted on 3/1/23 at 8:56 am to real turf fan
It looks like a thousand other roads on the Coastal Plain.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 9:00 am to real turf fan
What has AM's jail conditions been for 2 years? He was tied to all LE. He could even blackmail some LE that were on the take dirty cops- to be getting special favors/items in jail?
Is he in county jail? I don't know much about his type of drug recovery. What medications stabilize him? If any? Do people really have an easy time getting drugs in jails?
During interviews with detectives: in the cop car AM would spit his chew. His nicotine addiction would have him requiring chew. Does he have a jail cell with WiFi access TV?
Is he in county jail? I don't know much about his type of drug recovery. What medications stabilize him? If any? Do people really have an easy time getting drugs in jails?
During interviews with detectives: in the cop car AM would spit his chew. His nicotine addiction would have him requiring chew. Does he have a jail cell with WiFi access TV?
Posted on 3/1/23 at 9:03 am to Havoc
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Jurors will start the day with a trip to the Murdaugh family estate, known as Moselle, to look at the property. The 1,700 acre plot is where Paul and Maggie were killed near the kennels on the land. The request to visit the site was made by Murdaugh's lawyers.
They'll then move on to closing arguments which are expected to take several hours. Judge Clifton Newman, however, hopes to give the case over to the jury to begin deliberations before the end of the day.
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Posted on 3/1/23 at 9:04 am to cajunangelle
Supposedly there is way more to the drug trafficking angle than what is being discussed in this trial. I'll paraphrase what FitsNews reported because it's too much to copy and paste here.
Barrett Boulware, who was mentioned as being a friend and "victim" of Alex's stealing, was in trouble with law enforcement MULTIPLE times for drug smuggling. Barret's father, Thomas Boulware, was involved as well. Thomas was also an attorney who worked with Buster Murdaugh (Alex's grandfather).
Barrett was a commerical fisherman who may not have been fishing as much as using his boat to smuggle drugs into South Carolina.
Barrett purchased Moselle in 2000. Barrett and Alex purchased two more properties together in 2003 and 2004. Barrett transferred Moselle to his wife for $1 in 2009 and then to Alex in 2013 for $5. Alex transfered it to Maggie in 2016 for $5. In July 2018, Barrett granted power of attorney to Alex. Barrett passed away of cancer in September 2018.
When Alex and Barrett purchased those two properties together in 2003 and 2004, they were purchased under different LLCs.
I don't know where the investigation into all of these "other" activities stands, but it sounds like quite a tangled web. Will Folks from FitsNews has been alluding to the theory that AM is way more involved with drug smuggling and dealing than using, but the details of all of that have yet to really be brought to light. I imagine that investigation will be separate from the murders and the financial crimes of stealing from his clients.
Barrett Boulware, who was mentioned as being a friend and "victim" of Alex's stealing, was in trouble with law enforcement MULTIPLE times for drug smuggling. Barret's father, Thomas Boulware, was involved as well. Thomas was also an attorney who worked with Buster Murdaugh (Alex's grandfather).
Barrett was a commerical fisherman who may not have been fishing as much as using his boat to smuggle drugs into South Carolina.
Barrett purchased Moselle in 2000. Barrett and Alex purchased two more properties together in 2003 and 2004. Barrett transferred Moselle to his wife for $1 in 2009 and then to Alex in 2013 for $5. Alex transfered it to Maggie in 2016 for $5. In July 2018, Barrett granted power of attorney to Alex. Barrett passed away of cancer in September 2018.
When Alex and Barrett purchased those two properties together in 2003 and 2004, they were purchased under different LLCs.
I don't know where the investigation into all of these "other" activities stands, but it sounds like quite a tangled web. Will Folks from FitsNews has been alluding to the theory that AM is way more involved with drug smuggling and dealing than using, but the details of all of that have yet to really be brought to light. I imagine that investigation will be separate from the murders and the financial crimes of stealing from his clients.
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