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re: Insurance Lobbyist - Strategy (i.e., LIE) to Tie Lower Auto Insurance Rates to Tort Reform

Posted on 8/17/20 at 9:53 pm to
Posted by BigSalmon
Member since Jul 2019
576 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 9:53 pm to
quote:

My lawyer friend posted this. And im tried of you fricking lawyers. You are the reason shite is like this. In a wreck need a check bullshite.

Insurance rates are so high because its bread into our fricking state to just just sue because they settle half the fricking cases.

Every time you go to a lawyers office trip over a chair and sue them for $30k. this is literally how pieces of shite in our state make money.

And in that article all it says is it might not do anything for rates. Nothing concrete there other then you piece of shite lawyers.


Imagine being this brainwashed by insurance companies. Baw is about to go shoot up Gordon offices with a Progressive Flo apron on. lmao.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22828 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 10:05 pm to
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So, what rights are were given up?


This question seems to always go unanswered in these threads.

It’s as if some people believe it is your right to have your bullshite soft tissue case pushed to settlement by a crooked judge.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61261 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 10:06 pm to
That’s cute
Posted by Cajun Tifoso
Lafayette, LA
Member since Sep 2010
2718 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 10:16 pm to
quote:

i have three 1m+ claims on-going.

2 auto
1 GL bodily injury

the 2 auto claims
- Bumper to bumper - travelers paid 1m for it to go away and they not go after excess
- side swipe - 5 vertebre and 2 lumbar. primary paid 1m, going after excess now. A frickING SIDE SWIPE

the BI claim was a kid on a vessel who hopped out of a bunk bed, fractured his ankle, and sued for the ship being unseaworthy.

if you're saying there isn't a problem with our legal system them you're just full of shite.


eta: it will take a lot more than tort reform to fix our problem. but saying the bill was pointless is just lazy bullshite from attorney and physician lobbyists.


This is exactly how the system works. Build up BS medicals, make excess exposure a real possibility, force insurers to settle to prevent an excess, rinse, wash and repeat. Anyone who believes we do not have a problem have never been a target of one of the plaintiffs' attorney mills.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26028 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 10:22 pm to
Unspoken truths

1) the higher the insurance claim payouts, the more money the insurance companies make in the long run. Most everyone here is in Louisiana. When the price of oil is low, do gas companies get excited or worried about their bottom line? Business is on the margins. Large payouts mean larger margins (the consumers get to foot the bill for both... the larger claims and profit margins).

2) large payouts do deter newer/out of market insurance companies from entering the market. Less competition allows remaining insurance companies more flexibility to maintain market share at margins.

I just wanted to share a little honesty about how insurance companies come up with their target revenues and target profits.




Posted by thatdude
S. Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
234 posts
Posted on 8/17/20 at 10:50 pm to
Yes it will lead to lower premiums. This goes way beyond just insurance rates. High premiums and unfair plaintiff- friendly legal environment makes Louisiana a tough place to do business. This will help the Louisiana economy in the long run.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17032 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 6:03 am to
Slightly on topic but.

Anyone else feel that mandatory car insurance is another example of government overreach? The insurance industry would be much smaller and resemble a somewhat free market if it wasn't required.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85528 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 6:08 am to
quote:

What a melt!


Everything I said was true. We don't have more wrecks than any other state, we don't have worse drivers. We have the most lawsuites per driver.

Lawyers did this and don't want to accept any of the blame.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84361 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 6:10 am to
Wouldn’t a jury see through those bogus claims? All three are above the $50,000 threshold; why not give them to a jury to zero the fraudulent plaintiffs?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85528 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 6:11 am to
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Imagine being this brainwashed by insurance companies. Baw is about to go shoot up Gordon offices with a Progressive Flo apron on. lmao.




Rt, lawyers have nothing to do with this. Nothing at all. In a wreck? Need a check?

Where's your office at? I could use $30k rt now. Just a little slip and fall and I will be on my way.
This post was edited on 8/18/20 at 6:12 am
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112154 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 6:33 am to
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Lawyers did this and don't want to accept any of the blame


Their ads look like lottery winner testimonials...because that's exactly what they are.

No matter the damage, no matter the actual injuries, these ads make people think they've hit the lottery be abuse theyve been hit. What's worse is that certain lawyers have a network of doctors in on the plan that will provide an off the charts future treatment plan that they would NEVER try to propose for a regular patient.

It's the whole fricking system.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38963 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 7:53 am to
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Also interesting you complain about The Advocate being paid for by injury attorneys as advertisers

Yes, the Advocate has become less of an actual avenue for news and more of an Op-Ed. They are vested in the advertising of Injury Attorneys.

WBRZ does as much advertising with Injury Attorneys, but they at least still try to put on a facade of being a news reporting source.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84361 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 7:59 am to
Yeah, and we all just intuitively know we’re in good hands with Jake from State Farm.

Being their product is literally mandated by state law, insurance companies don’t need to advertise and being the good corporate citizens they are, they pass those advertising budgets along to consumers in the form of lower rates.

I was once ignorant to this fact, but was enlightened having a conversation with someone at the Allstate Sugar Bowl.
This post was edited on 8/18/20 at 8:03 am
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
23892 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 8:07 am to
We tried to tell you guys this shite, but the OT is so damn stubborn sometimes.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61261 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 8:29 am to
quote:

Most everyone here is in Louisiana. When the price of oil is low, do gas companies get excited or worried about their bottom line?


Wut?


I guess you don't count drilling as part of the oil and gas industry.
This post was edited on 8/18/20 at 8:31 am
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40182 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 9:11 am to
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So again, tell me why Louisiana’s judiciary will collapse due to $10k PI cases when Texas manages jury trials for $10 PI cases plus traffic tickets and everything else.


It won't. This is one of the most pathetic "arguments" the attorneys are making.

Again, if this system works in 49 other states, why won't it work here?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40182 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 9:13 am to
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yet don’t see a similar link between TV and all the insurer commercials...


1) I see many more attorney commercials than I do insurer commercials

2) Commercials are commercials. If the Advocate's articles started with a "Paid for by Gordon" than that would make more sense.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40182 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 9:17 am to
quote:

1) the higher the insurance claim payouts, the more money the insurance companies make in the long run. Most everyone here is in Louisiana. When the price of oil is low, do gas companies get excited or worried about their bottom line? Business is on the margins. Large payouts mean larger margins (the consumers get to foot the bill for both... the larger claims and profit margins).

2) large payouts do deter newer/out of market insurance companies from entering the market. Less competition allows remaining insurance companies more flexibility to maintain market share at margins.


These two go against each other.

If #1 is true, then every insurer in America would want to write business here. They don't... because of number #2.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61261 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 9:19 am to
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We tried to tell you guys this shite, but the OT is so damn stubborn sometimes.



Try reading the thread.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40182 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 9:20 am to
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Anyone else feel that mandatory car insurance is another example of government overreach? The insurance industry would be much smaller and resemble a somewhat free market if it wasn't required.


In the same way that mandatory treatment at an ER is government outreach?

Uninsured driver hits/injuries another insured driver. So now everything is forced onto the victim driver, who then has to deal with higher rates. How is this fair?

Yes, it's government outreach, because left up to the free market, too many people won't do the right thing. And that hurts the people who do indeed do the right thing.
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