re: Infamous 2017 Charlottesville white supremacist rally was an op, indictment alleges

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You mean the obese girl who had a heart attack because someone revved their car engine and she fell down.

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If the left can claim law enforcement was killed on 1/6 I don’t see why the right can’t claim this as a kill from the left.

Time #458,536 SFP was wrong

I'll bet y'all a coca cola that nothing ever becomes of this other than folks who want the SPLC to be slandered. An indictment is nothing more than the state saying it has enough evidence to bring charges. They will rattle their swords and do nothing because they will open up a can of worms that the police state wants NO part of. The SPLC has been a quasi federal investigatory body since the early 1970s. When they published their annual report in 2025 and mentioned TPA. The FBI, who has been in bed with the SPLC from the day the SPLC became an entity, severed ties with SLPC when that report was published. The wrongdoings of 55 years of police work in the US is not going to come to light because the current FBI, which is about to be neutered in the mid terms, didn't care for a report published by the SLPC. This is what the SPCL lives for...and the federal government is engaging with a wrestling match with a hog that sole reason for existing is wrestling. The upper management of the FBI may be under control of the current administration but the majority of the operatives in the federal justice system couldn't care less what upper management does...they will do what they have always done and weather the storm until November. Its exciting for those who choose to believe that something will come of it but it won't.

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“All it shows is that SPLC paid people to join hate groups and then directed and supervised their fomenting of the group and participation in it!”

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"We're still on the right side of (her)story, BRO!"

you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink

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“All it shows is that SPLC paid people to join hate groups and then directed and supervised their fomenting of the group and participation in it!”

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The Indictment does not show that SPLC paid people to join hate groups.

The Indictment does not show that SPLC paid people to join hate groups.

The Indictment does not show that SPLC directed and supervised their fomenting of the group.

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Look at this woke cuck dumbass spinning out.

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Some of us pointed this out even then. The leader of the 'far right' group, Kessler, was a former Obama volunteer and Occupy Wall Street protester.

He's even listed as such on the - wait for it - SPLC website.

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Infamous 2017 Charlottesville white supremacist rally was an op,

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So you're defining an "op" as one person out of hundreds who planned it?

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SFP you have 24 hours to respond

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Already responded plenty. I'll copy and paste

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I read the indictment and the salacious allegations don't seem very strong and can easily be countered if SPLC documented what information they gave/sent via these informants. If they can establish legitimate information gathering and sharing, it's going to be extremely hard to prove fraud.

NOW, the bank stuff....that could present some major issues for the individuals who signed those declarations.

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I have to imagine a large part of this being dropped now (unfinished?) is for PR. Just look at the spin with people trying to dishonestly argue Charlottesville was a complete "op" b/c of one informant. That sort of red meat seems to be the real goal.

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People are trying to spin that into the SPLC "funding" the group, when it was just 2 snitches who permitted the SPLC to access tons of legitimate documents from the larger group. The fact they paid 2 snitches doesn't invalidate the larger group or its actions/beliefs, or, technically, the beliefs of the snitches.

Arguing this supports the organization is the same as arguing law enforcement funds organized criminal groups when they use snitches to get evidence. See how dumb that sounds with the same behavior in a different context?

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Was it to acquire legitimate documentation of a legitimate hate group? Yes.

Did the SPLC use this information to write about and expos that group? Yes

What, exactly, is your argument? They paid 2 snitches within a larger, legitimately terrible organization, to get legitimate information in order to write about that group negatively. How are you trying to spin that, exactly?

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You think because one guy (who likely was still legitimately part of a racist org) was a snitch the entire thing was fake?

You're going to new a few thousand more people to be exposed to start making that argument, b/c that's how many showed up for white nationalism.

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I think the issue with the spin is that people are assuming because these people snitched for money they stopped being racists or supporters of the larger cause.

Think of this like the easiest comparison: infiltrating mob operations. Most of the guys who were informants and snitches were always pieces of shite during the whole process. They were also wanted by other authorities (the feds would step in to stop legitimate state prosecutions on occasion).

The fact the feds used this same process doesn't mean they were funding the mob, right? They were not criminals too right?

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I see bad rhetoric and NPC memes likely based on bullshite and I'm explaining what I believe is the cognitive dissonance creating that situation.

Other posters have come in after my statement and confirmed they're adopting the stance that I argue is that cognitive dissonance.

They're doing it to argue these racists weren't actually racist and were plants by the SPLC. Discovering they're racists who are also snitches kills that talking point.

The other taking point is the "SPLC funded racist groups" one, and we need a lot more detail, especially from a less biased source than an indictment. We don't know what % of this money was kept by individuals and what % flowed back to the larger organizations.

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Kindly refrain from posting anymore in my thread.

Thank you

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HHTN's response to his dishonesty being proven