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Posted on 5/19/16 at 8:33 am to slackster
I received a detention in middle school for bringing football cards to school. Teacher pointed out that such items have no place in a school and how much of a distraction they are to myself and other students. Also made the point about they are enticing to thieving kids. shite gets stolen and then parents bitch about that. All good points. I served my time and moved on. This parents should do the same.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 8:33 am to NYNolaguy1
Parents should claim she is being discriminated against because the bubble gun had Elsa on it. Elsa is rumored to be a lesbian not yet out of the closet. Kid was really suspended for bringing a toy to a public school with a lesbian on it. School would quickly reverse the decision. They would probably have a bubble parade with Elsa cupcakes.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 8:33 am to NYNolaguy1
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"gun"
Bad - Guns are bad
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Elsa on the side.
Lesbian - Homos are great
Should balance out and be a "zero" on the scale right?
Posted on 5/19/16 at 8:34 am to colorchangintiger
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We have an obligation to break stupid rules. In Nazi Germany being Jewish was against the rules. Should we have just told jews that "Sorry, rules are rules."
Good analogy, a toy gun is on the same level as the Holocaust.
While I understand that this is a dumb rule and think it could've been handled with a phone call I also see the other side. If the school calls the mom to come get the toy and she posts it on Facebook as "OMG the school just called me to come pick up the gun my daughter brought to school" with a pic thinking is funny some other parent or school board member sees the post and then the teacher or principal is in trouble for not following rules.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 8:34 am to colorchangintiger
Double post
This post was edited on 5/19/16 at 8:36 am
Posted on 5/19/16 at 8:34 am to colorchangintiger
Doh triple post
This post was edited on 5/19/16 at 8:36 am
Posted on 5/19/16 at 8:34 am to slackster
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The inability to follow rules and the sense of entitlement that follows is a primary reason for this country's problems.
This is a dumb interpretation of a dumb rule, and the school administrators deserve every inch of the media heat they are getting.
The rule says not to bring weapons or facsimiles thereof to school. I would love for someone to explain to me exactly what weapon this toy is a facsimile of. Or even better how this toy is a weapon. If you can't explain either, it's hard to explain how the rule was broken.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 8:34 am to NYNolaguy1
Why not just call the parents and have them come pick up the bubble gun? Then, just talk to the kid. "Look sweet heart, I know you wanted to bring your toy to show your friends. However, it looks like a gun, and we cannot have that on campus, ok? Ok baby, here's a sucker, go have a nice day."
A little common sense people.
A little common sense people.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 8:36 am to TIGERSTORM
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TIGERSTORM
Come again?
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Good analogy, a toy gun is on the same level as the Holocaust.
So when exactly does the mantra "rules are rules" cease being absolute? Because you can't say "rules are rules" and then apply it arbitrarily. That would be breaking the rule that "rules are rules". Do you see the hypocrisy and irony?
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 8:51 am to NYNolaguy1
I remember in about 1st or 2nd grade all the guys in my class, myself included, had our moms buy us these plastic toy M-16's from KMart like this...
We'd bring those to school every day and would have awesome battles out on the playground. Guess that would make national news today.
We'd bring those to school every day and would have awesome battles out on the playground. Guess that would make national news today.
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 8:52 am to NYNolaguy1
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The girl’s mother, who goes by Emma,
Does that seem like odd phrasing to anyone else?
Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:01 am to WG_Dawg
I got suspended in 3rd grade for making one of the paper guns out of notebook paper. Looked just like this.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:07 am to Darth_Vader
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Darth_Vader
You are what they are trying to prevent.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:08 am to Topwater Trout
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rules are rules
That's the problem. Our tax dollars are funding the creation of moronic rules by imbeciles.
Zero tolerance policies, across the board, have no place in society.
Just another reason to send your kids to private school.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:09 am to Black n Gold
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You are what they are trying to prevent.
Time to ban tricycles at school. They look too much like Harleys/Indians and will ultimately lead to three piece patches in the classroom. Didn't you hear about the trike club that opened there recently?
Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:10 am to Black n Gold
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You are what they are trying to prevent.
Well, considering this is what passes for a man nowadays....
... I'd say they're doing a damn good job.
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:10 am to slackster
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The inability to follow rules and the sense of entitlement that follows is a primary reason for this country's problems. The story in the OP is a perfect example.
Zero tolerance is zero tolerance. Applying the rules equally is not a reason this country is going to shite.
Zero Tolerance is the worst fricking disciplinary concept that has ever been conceived.
It sounds nice. Kind of how "Gun Free Zones" sound nice. And makes everyone feel safer.
In reality and practice, zero tolerance rules are completely asinine and only exist to relieve administrators of the responsibility of actual using their fricking brain and make decisions. It's a cop-out for administrators to point to and say "see? we have a no tolerance policy" when they do stupid shite. Furthermore, they turn otherwise obedient, stable, and well-meaning kids into virtual criminals. Or sometimes even literal criminals.
In this particular situation, how about this:
"Sweetie, I'm going to have to take away your toy for right now, OK? I'll give it back at the end of the day and explain why."
It was a fricking bubble gun.
When a kid brings a bb gun, we can start talking about suspensions.
I mean, shite, when I was in third grade, I brought a small pocket knife my father had given me to school. I thought it was cool and wanted to show my friends. When a teacher saw it, she took it away, and then told my mother about it when she picked me up from school. End of story. Crazy to think that these days I may actually have been expelled.
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:15 am to UGATiger26
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When a teacher saw it, she took it away, and then told my mother about it when she picked me up from school. End of story. Crazy to think that these days I may actually have been expelled.
Depending on the school district you could have been arrested and charged with bringing a weapon into a weapon free zone. Definitely would have put a damper on an sort of career you wanted to have at 8/9 years old.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:17 am to Darth_Vader
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Yes, give some sort of punishment for breaking the rules, but to suspend her is just absurd.
The story is sensationalized to the hilt. The girl's mom had to pick her up from school because her kid brought a toy bubble gun. The girl came back to the school the next day. Its as a one day "suspension."
The "punishment" is perfectly acceptable for that type of violation.
A toy gun is a toy gun. If you're going to suspend a kid for bringing a cap gun with an orange tip, which is clearly a toy, then you should do the same for a bubble gun. I don't know why this is hard to comprehend.
This post was edited on 5/19/16 at 9:19 am
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