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re: I'm taking legal action against the Office of Motor Vehicles
Posted on 4/14/25 at 11:21 am to TheOcean
Posted on 4/14/25 at 11:21 am to TheOcean
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People like OP are the absolute worst.
They don't want to participate in society like the rest of us, but they want all of the benefits. Then they act like douchebags and clog the court system with bullshite.
If you don't want to get a SSN and you are born here in the US, you shouldn't be allowed to drive. Period.
I'd suggest that if you want the above to be the case, you should actually have the law represent that desire...not explicitly represent the opposite of it.
The hubris of expecting people to conform to what you think is proper in the face of what the law actually says is much more of a problem in society than someone who is following the law.
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 11:27 am to eitek1
Congrats, I guess.
Still a colosal waste of time/money and now the state Legislature will waste more time trying to fix a relatively insignificant loophole you managed to expose.
Still a colosal waste of time/money and now the state Legislature will waste more time trying to fix a relatively insignificant loophole you managed to expose.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 11:34 am to 214
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If so this guy might be creating case law.
Full disclosure, I'm not an attorney, but I worked for an insurance carrier for a while and any time a claim was denied and suit was filed the carrier almost always wanted to avoid setting precedent by taking a case to trial.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 11:38 am to moneyg
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This is just poor logic.
What action was taken that precipitated the event occurring?
Posted on 4/14/25 at 11:59 am to DrEdgeLSU
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What action was taken that precipitated the event occurring?
The DMV decided not to issue a license in violation of the law?
This post was edited on 4/14/25 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 4/14/25 at 12:03 pm to chRxis
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i think i speak for a large majority of the other OTers here, but this is a really fricking weird hill to die on, my dude...
of all the causes to be so passionate about, you picked one of the dumbest...
but congrats on the "success", i guess.... i'm sure you feel great about it and all, but yeah... we all think you are a virtue signaling asshat doing this for your own self-validation, but whatever... life your life, bro
All of this!
Posted on 4/14/25 at 1:01 pm to moneyg
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The DMV decided not to issue a license in violation of the law?
Would the OP have even run into this particular issue if he didn't make this bizarre choice 15+ years prior?
Again, just because he won a legal case doesn't mean he is right.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 1:06 pm to eitek1
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What would it take for you to start pushing back?
An actual injustice that deprives people of life, liberty, or pursuit of happiness.
An actual injustice that impacts the good of the community.
Not self-aggrandizing personally-benefitting crusades that are meaningless to everyone else in the world.
This post was edited on 4/14/25 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 4/14/25 at 1:26 pm to DrEdgeLSU
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Not self-aggrandizing personally-benefitting crusades that are meaningless to everyone else in the world.
Because I know I'm not the only one.
gerund or present participle: aggrandizing
increase the power, status, or wealth of.
"an action intended to aggrandize the Frankish dynasty"
enhance the reputation of (someone) beyond what is justified by the facts.
"he hoped to aggrandize himself by dying a hero's death"
Posted on 4/14/25 at 1:27 pm to DrEdgeLSU
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Would the OP have even run into this particular issue if he didn't make this bizarre choice 15+ years prior?
No. Would the OP have even run into this particular issue if the OMV didn't break the law?
I'm not interested in playing semantics with you. It's pretty clear that the OMV is the one that was wrong. You don't have to agree that what he's doing is worthwhile or even worth anything to acknowledge that.
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Again, just because he won a legal case doesn't mean he is right.
You are using the term "right" in a subjective, non-specific way. He's 100% right legally. What are you referring to when you say he's not "right"?
Posted on 4/14/25 at 1:38 pm to moneyg
Well, I'm not surprised OP was successful. I am surprised it occurred so quickly.
Not to disappoint OP, but you won your battle and that's good, but I'm confident the policy at DMV will not change over this. Next week the battle would need to be fought again. A clip of the order was posted, but I presume the order did not direct the DMV to alter their practices, just your issue was addressed.
Not to disappoint OP, but you won your battle and that's good, but I'm confident the policy at DMV will not change over this. Next week the battle would need to be fought again. A clip of the order was posted, but I presume the order did not direct the DMV to alter their practices, just your issue was addressed.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 1:45 pm to DrEdgeLSU
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DrEdgeLSU
JFC. Your past 24 posts have been solely on this topic kver the past 5 days.
Why do you care so much?
Posted on 4/14/25 at 1:50 pm to moneyg
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Would the OP have even run into this particular issue if the OMV didn't break the law?
Is getting a driver's license required by law?
Yes, I'm being intentionally obtuse about this particular point, but let's be clear - he made a choice in 2009 or so without fully understanding the consequences of that choice. He made the choice. Nobody did that for him or to him.
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You are using the term "right" in a subjective, non-specific way. He's 100% right legally. What are you referring to when you say he's not "right"?
He created a difficult situation for his son that could have been avoided long before they ever walked into the OMV. I think that's wrong. In my view, I would avoid any scenario that intentionally creates difficulty for my children. He said in an earlier post that his son was 100% on board. I'm glad for that, honestly, because I think he's lucky that his son hasn't ghosted him over this.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 2:00 pm to eatpie
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Well, I'm not surprised OP was successful. I am surprised it occurred so quickly.
The thing about a petition for a Writ of Mandamus is that it automatically goes to the front of the line, by law.
That's why I was a bit amused at the folks implying they were legal types in this thread. If they truly were attorneys, they would have known that. Or rather, they should have known that. If the state didn't ask for an extension, he would have received his license on his 16th birthday.
He is going to forego the 6 month waiting period and he will get his license as soon as he finishes driver's ed.
On the original petition I wrote, the policy change was in there. On the one that got filed, it wasn't. I wish I would have caught that.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 2:08 pm to IAmNERD
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DrEdgeLSU
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JFC. Your past 24 posts have been solely on this topic kver the past 5 days.
Why do you care so much?
Dude is unhinged. I wonder if he works at the OMV and his "Authoritah!" was questioned?
This post was edited on 4/14/25 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 4/14/25 at 2:10 pm to Woodlands Tigah
That or he was the attorney representing the state.
I just cannot fathom caring so much about what a guy, who I do not know at all, has done regarding his legal action against anyone.
I just cannot fathom caring so much about what a guy, who I do not know at all, has done regarding his legal action against anyone.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 2:25 pm to eitek1
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The thing about a petition for a Writ of Mandamus is that it automatically goes to the front of the line, by law.
That's why I was a bit amused at the folks implying they were legal types in this thread. If they truly were attorneys, they would have known that. Or rather, they should have known that. If the state didn't ask for an extension, he would have received his license on his 16th birthday.
He is going to forego the 6 month waiting period and he will get his license as soon as he finishes driver's ed.
Ok, so I have a non-a-hole question here, because I was actually wondering this. Does he really not have to meet the 6-month waiting period? Is that part of the order, they have to issue it "as if" it had been issued correctly at the beginning?
Posted on 4/14/25 at 2:27 pm to IAmNERD
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That or he was the attorney representing the state.
There were 4 attorneys representing the state there. Three of them were with the OMV. There was one Sent by some higher authority. I suspected it was him.
That guy looked our way when we were seated and made the comment "They're going to have to appeal this". When we all were walking out that same guy said "We're going to have to appeal this".
I know it might seem like a minor issue I raised. I assure you, it's not.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 2:29 pm to eitek1
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Well, you're wrong. I have a signed Judgment from a state court that my son will get his license after completing driver's ed.
Excuse me if I overlooked and missed it, but did you (can you) post a pic of the petition and order?
I’m curious as to how it reads.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 2:30 pm to DrEdgeLSU
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Does he really not have to meet the 6-month waiting period? Is that part of the order, they have to issue it "as if" it had been issued correctly at the beginning?
He does not have to meet the 6 month waiting period and that is part of the Order.
LA RS 32:428 allows the DMV to waive any and all requirements in the code. That was brought up in court specifically and called out as such.
Also, I appreciate the question. This was an interesting learning experience, I figured more people would be curious about the legal stuff.
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