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re: I'm taking legal action against the Office of Motor Vehicles
Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:35 pm to eitek1
Posted on 11/12/24 at 2:35 pm to eitek1
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You seem irrationally angry over this though.
Irony.
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If I've somehow ruined your day, I'm sorry and hope it gets better.
I am voluntarily engaged in this thread. It’s fun to me.
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Posted on 11/12/24 at 3:21 pm to eitek1
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Isn't there a requirement the guidelines/policies be in compliance with the law?
Which law(s)? We have lots of laws in this country, many conflicting with each other. Heard someone say once our state legislature passes new laws every year that conflict with other laws, including the U.S. constitution, but most never get challenged because its a lot of work to challenge a law, and even more work to challenge a decision of a public body in interpreting or using a law. I'm impartial on the issue, but even if you are right doesn't mean the courts with agree, and it may be a long, long path to get to that point.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 3:30 pm to NOLALGD
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I'm impartial on the issue, but even if you are right doesn't mean the courts with agree
Good question... when he loses, will he appeal.. and appeal.. and appeal all the way to the Supreme Court?
So in 5 years... we'll be waiting for the decision on eitek1 vs LA OMV?
This post was edited on 11/12/24 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 11/12/24 at 4:05 pm to MemphisGuy
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So in 5 years... we'll be waiting for the decision on eitek1 vs LA OMV?
It’ll be a landmark civil rights decision with widespread and far-reaching ramifications.
And eitek1 jr will have a SSN and a drivers license and be halfway through college.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 4:09 pm to eitek1
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It's infinitely possible.
Wut
Posted on 11/12/24 at 4:23 pm to eitek1
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Maybe he flips houses. What if he's an artist? What if he is an investor and just lives off of capital gains. Capital gains earnings aren't subject to SS taxes. But... like I said, he's free to get one if he wants.
You need an SSN to file a tax return retard. You and your son enjoy the fruits and protections and services the government provides so pay your taxes you frickin deadbeat.
You want to drive on publicly funded roads, you play by the rules set out by the government.
Stop being an entitled shithead and pay your taxes.
This post was edited on 11/12/24 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 11/12/24 at 4:39 pm to DrEdgeLSU
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And eitek1 jr will have a SSN and a drivers license and be halfway through college.
Then eitek1 will sue to have it removed from his database citing this monumental decision. eitek1 Jr. will say "aw dad, not this shite again".
Posted on 11/12/24 at 4:40 pm to SUB
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The average person pays almost half a million & into social security over a lifetime
You got a source for this claim? That's a hefty number considering most folks don't earn more than a couple million in their whole damn life.
Given the $2 million in SS wages number above that is $124K in SS taxes and $29K in Medicare taxes ...not a small figure but not the hyperbolic figure you posted.
This hypothetical individual will likely withdraw more than they put into the program in old age when they start taking benefits if they live long enough.
This post was edited on 11/12/24 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 11/12/24 at 4:43 pm to eitek1
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6.25%
This is not the Social Security tax rate. lmao. The employee share is 7.65% of SS and Medicare tax.
You are also ignoring that by paying into the system you are eligible for benefits in your old age if you earn enough credits through your working years.
This is not the W you think is Mr. Brain Rotted Sov Cit.
Go play in traffic and I hope you cut your nuts off and don't reproduce ever again.
ETA to correct 7.65% is total payroll tax NOT just SS.
This post was edited on 11/12/24 at 5:22 pm
Posted on 11/12/24 at 4:44 pm to jclem11
quote:which is why the program is always in arrears and depends on the current generations to fund benefits for the retirees. And since it is likely that retiree A will withdraw more than they deposited it’s a good deal for the retiree and not the “government scam” many want to make it out to be. Watch for the “entitlement” buzzword as it gets tossed around in the next legislative session by people who aren’t enrolled in the program
This hypothetical individual will likely withdraw more than they put into the program in old age when they start taking benefits if they live long enough.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 4:51 pm to jclem11
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This is not the Social Security tax rate
SS Rate is 6.2% per side.
Medicare rate is 1.45% per side.
Neither of which I assume he will allow his son to ever participate in should the need arise.
Because, you know, principles and stuff.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 4:52 pm to jclem11
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This is not the Social Security tax rate. lmao. The employee share is 7.65% of SS wages.
7.65% is total payroll tax.
6.2% SS, 1.45% Medicare
Posted on 11/12/24 at 5:11 pm to eitek1
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You see, my son doesn't have a social security number.
I stopped reading right here.
I haven't laughed this hard in a while.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 5:13 pm to SneezyBeltranIsHere
OP doesn't want his family to participate in society like the rest of us, but he wants all the same benefits. His son should either ride a bicycle or pick up a horse and buggy. frick OP and his family
Posted on 11/12/24 at 5:15 pm to jchamil
Yea.. my bad but for the vast majority of people your SS and Medicare wages are the same so semantics. 
You still benefit in old age by paying into those programs during your working years.
You still benefit in old age by paying into those programs during your working years.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 5:30 pm to eitek1
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They have refused to issue my son his Learners Permit.
Why would he need a permit or license to travel in a private conveyance? Don’t let the USA Corporation hold you down, citizen.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 7:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
Sov Cit on display South Park style.
Posted on 11/13/24 at 6:44 am to cgrand
What is the ultimate goal regarding the SSN?
Not having an SSN does not relieve you of paying SS or other taxes. If I understand correctly, not having an SSN does prevent you from receiving SS benefits (medicare/medicaid as well?)
Bottom line is your son will still be required to contribute the taxes on his income. This is presuming, of course, he will participate in the workforce in some fashion.
I agree with your frustration, but I fail to grasp the goal of refusing the SSN. I see a LOT of lost money for you (taxes, legal fees) and a LOT of time/energy spent for you, and later for him.
Not having an SSN does not relieve you of paying SS or other taxes. If I understand correctly, not having an SSN does prevent you from receiving SS benefits (medicare/medicaid as well?)
Bottom line is your son will still be required to contribute the taxes on his income. This is presuming, of course, he will participate in the workforce in some fashion.
I agree with your frustration, but I fail to grasp the goal of refusing the SSN. I see a LOT of lost money for you (taxes, legal fees) and a LOT of time/energy spent for you, and later for him.
Posted on 11/13/24 at 6:48 am to eatpie
Yeah, but, he’s letting his son choose whether or not to get the SSN. Just like his father did for him. Isn’t that so cute?
Posted on 11/13/24 at 6:49 am to TheOcean
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OP doesn't want his family to participate in society like the rest of us, but he wants all the same benefits. His son should either ride a bicycle or pick up a horse and buggy. frick OP and his family
Riding a bicycle is almost certainly a function of the collective....unless its an extremely expensive bike or more than about 30 years old it was shipped across at least one ocean that was secured for the purpose by the taxpayers of the United States....
Even walking is problematic if you are hell bent on being a rugged individual....you are either going to be walking on private property, which obviously presents some issues, or public property, which is straight out.
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