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re: I'm perfectly okay with Gillette's commercial

Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:30 am to
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:30 am to
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Having said that, their commercial is 100% spot on when it comes to the way I try to raise my son.


Posted by msutiger
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:30 am to
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This post was edited on 4/15/23 at 6:11 am
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:31 am to
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I'm not teaching him to btfo ever kid he sees... but I'll be goddamned if I'm going to teach him to be a fricking pacifist.




You're right though. There's a line between douchebag punching people out and someone who can defend themselves when said douchebag comes around.

BuT bOyS wIlL bE bOyS iS bAd
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:32 am to
Scruffy wants to see the one about toxic femininity and the reaction to that.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:32 am to
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There has got to be some person in the room saying "Hold the f up. Take a step back and let's look at the negative consequences this could create"


Like Nike with kaep's sacrifice?
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:32 am to
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I'm actually Hispanic.
Posted by msutiger
Houston
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:33 am to
Exactly. Are these marketing departments overrun with Ivy League coastal elites that have never interacted with their consumers?
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:33 am to
My son still sees us fight and argue and he sees us make up at the end. I'm not saying he never sees that, but we do make a concerted effort to hide it from him until he's a little older. Nothing wrong with that.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:34 am to
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Scruffy wants to see the one about toxic femininity and the reaction to that.


Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:34 am to
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Are these marketing departments overrun with Ivy League coastal elites that have never interacted with their consumers?
The ad was made by a woman.

Got to love the woman-splaining.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:34 am to
I was being sarcastic. Nike did very well with that campaign.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:34 am to
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Ads are all about impressions, basically meaning views. His job was done and done well.


Yes. But the one impression you never want to convey is to insult the very people you want to buy your product.


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I would guarantee this idea was approved by or maybe even thought up by the top of the chain.


Oh, I’m sure it was. And all that shows the stupidity of the progressive SJW mindset has infected even the highest levels of Gillette.
Posted by i am dan
NC
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:34 am to
I'll be fine if they come out with about 8 more commercials condemning other "problem" groups and explaining how they could be better as well.

Yep, us straight white males cooking burgers in the backyard for our families are the real source of social problems... such bullshite.

But of course, that'll never happen, so gillette can go eff themselves.
This post was edited on 1/16/19 at 8:37 am
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:35 am to
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Your avatar objectifies women, and set unrealistic body standard for women.

She's real so it's not unrealistic. And she's hot, reminds me of my wife, and women shouldn't feel objectified when seeing my avatar. If they are then that's their own issue to work out in their head.

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(See how ridiculous this all is?)

I do see how ridiculous this all is. I just don't have a major problem with the commercial because I'm not a snowflake pussy that gets offended by every little thing that goes against my own views.
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:36 am to
I get what you're stating. I have ended friendship with guys that were complete asshats, but let's be real, okay? Men, by and large, treat women with a certain level of both respect and distrust. We judge women on looks, on their clothes, on their hair, on their personality, on their enthusiasm in bed. Men are, and always have been, hunter/gatherers, predatory and aggressively sexual. A decade of soy milk can't change hundreds of thousands of years of nature. That said, civility, honor and respect generally prevail.

Gillette missed the mark here. They painted with a wide brush and in the process denigrated the vast majority of men who are responsible, non-violent, non-rapey, non-baby daddy types but who are just honest, respectful men. You should be incensed at the insinuation, especially if you have your own sons and have raised them right.
Posted by terd ferguson
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:36 am to
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There's a line between douchebag punching people out and someone who can defend themselves when said douchebag comes around.


Everybody tries to preach this "don't fight at school" crap now. I told my kid he has my permission to retaliate against any bully that tries to frick with him... I'll deal with the school if it ever comes to it. He's not mean-spirited or violent by nature but he needs to know it's ok to defend yourself.

But I've also told him that if he sees someone picking on a weaker kid to step in and put a stop to that shite. He's a good kid... I have no doubt that he'll use good judgement.
Posted by msutiger
Houston
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:36 am to
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I was being sarcastic. Nike did very well with that campaign.



Remains to be seen. There was a short term jump, but I think the longterm reaction could be negative. It may not be and they may hold steady, but I still don't see the point.

Regardless, it is a bad idea to isolate a segment of the market for the top brass' political beliefs.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:37 am to
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I'll be fine if they come out with about 8 more commercials condemning other "problem" groups and explaining how they could be better as well.


I just want to see the outrage when it shows a normal looking Muslim stopping one in full garb with a bomb vest.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
51587 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:37 am to
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The fact that they said "Some" men act appropriately was ridiculous.

Imagine for ten seconds a company had an ad that stated "some women" act appropriately. Speak-to-the-manager-moms and feminists would burn that company's headquarters to the ground.

Very good point. And you're 100% right.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
32361 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 8:38 am to
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She's real so it's not unrealistic. And she's hot, reminds me of my wife, and women shouldn't feel objectified when seeing my avatar. If they are then that's their own issue to work out in their head.


The woman in your avatar objectified herself, as millions of other women do. I can probably find 32 million pairs of boobies on the internet in 3 seconds. Women objectify themselves. Feel free to use it without judgement.
This post was edited on 1/16/19 at 9:03 am
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