re: I'm glad the BLM crowd is so dedicated to equality

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I despise BLM as much as the next guy, but this is a load of shite, and I can prove it to you. Do you wish you were black?

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So you are asking me if I would care if I was raised in the same type of environment (both parents with good values) but my skin was black?

Why would I care?

Skin color doesn't determine your behavior. I would most likely be a very similar person with the same thought processes. Maybe would have been able to run faster jump higher and better scholarship, but that's not a bad thing.

Now if you are asking me if I would want to be born in the lower ninth ward, that's a different story. Because I also wouldn't want to be born to a white family in a trailer park in Alabama either.

You made a nice straw man argument though. The real root cause that you are ignoring is poverty and family dynamics. Not skin color.

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but often gloss over the fact that blacks kill more blacks than whites do.

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It is even worse than that. Blacks kill Whites at a much higher rate than Whites kill Blacks. If anything Whites should be marching on Blacks.

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Now if you are asking me if I would want to be born in the lower ninth ward, that's a different story. Because I also wouldn't want to be born to a white family in a trailer park in Alabama either. You made a nice straw man argument though. The real root cause that you are ignoring is poverty and family dynamics. Not skin color.

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But if you're black, you're more likely to have been born into poverty. You're also more likely to have been born into a single parent household. You cannot conveniently ignore that. Socioeconomics are more important than race, there is no denying that, but you cannot act like they're unrelated.

So, as pointed out in this discussion numerous times, socioeconomic factors play a role in African lives. If you are black, you are over 30 times more likely to be born into a single parent household than to be unarmed and killed by police. Why not address this clearly contributing factor instead of focusing all your attention on such a minute detail? That's my problem with BLM. They make it about race when there are clearly much larger factors, actually inside the black community, at play.

Yes, there are a litany of issues that need to get better across the entire race. You'll be happy to know that despite media coverage to the contrary, many of them are getting better.

Poverty is down. Education is up. Teen pregnancy is down. Birth rates are down. It all helps, but it is still a work in progress.

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You cannot offer up a few exceptions to the rule as a barometer for an entire race. People don't make it out "all the time." When more than half of your grandparents or parents were born poor, don't act like it is so difficult to grasp that being born black in this country is still worse than being born white.

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The problem I have with your argument is that you are implying that there is some external force that is putting black people in this situation.

I am arguing the opposite. These problems are a result of deeper systemic problems in black culture. They don't value education. They glorify rappers, drug dealers, and athletes. There is no sense of loyalty or responsibility if you impregnate another woman. (All of these are generalizations and not all inclusive)

Why don't we see the same problems in the japenese population. A population that was systemically rounded up and placed in concentration camps on American soil much more recently than any black person was held as a slave in this country.

The old "the facts don't support my argument and are irrelevant" has happened yet again. So let's just go with what our gut and the media tell us. Same thing happens with global warming, lol

Don't you just hate when the facts get in way of your story you are trying to paint, lol

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Why don't we see the same problems in the japenese population. A population that was systemically rounded up and placed in concentration camps on American soil much more recently than any black person was held as a slave in this country.

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The overwhelming majority of Asians in the US are first and second generation immigrants. The kind of person who comes to the US in the last 50 years is not exactly a random selection of Asians.

There are many forces at play, but at no point am I trying to suggest white people bear some significant amount of responsibility. I'm not going to explain it away as simply black culture because you and I both know it is much more complicated than that.