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re: Ignorant BR PD Officer w/ FBI

Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:49 am to
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
10456 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:49 am to
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officer said that the videographer looked suspicious. 

Because you DID look suspicious! Dumbass, it is a FEDERAL building. Personally, I think you are one of the crazy fricks that would blow it up. If I drove to your trailer park, and started shooting video of your trailer, you wouldn't come see what the frick I was doing?
Posted by 91TIGER
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2006
19213 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:50 am to
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Pretty sure the courts have tackled this issue and the answer was no.

everyone is shitting on the guy for exercising his rights just go ahead and admit you wouldn't care if the right didn't exist.



Just a question, what if this guy was taking pictures of the building ?

Posted by scottfruget
Member since Nov 2010
3392 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:51 am to
I was waiting for the thread that said:

“Dumbass Constituional Audit “reporter” wasted BRPD and FBI time suspiciously filming federal building in order to illicit response”

Gets mad when officers check on his activity.
This post was edited on 12/31/18 at 11:52 am
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:51 am to
Illegal detention is for the court to decide.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
15900 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:52 am to
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there a lot of things that are illegal to film or photograph, may not get you locked up(depending on your reaction,) but people in charge of securing whatever they are, certainly have the right to question you and make you stop


If you can see it from a public space it’s not illegal to film or photograph. They can ask questions just like anyone else in public could but they can’t (legally) make you stop.
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:53 am to
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Illegal detention is for the court to decide.
Well, it's already been decided what constitutes it. I can review that video and determine it was outside the lines drawn by the Courts.

ETA: I understand you are just reading from your little pamphlet
This post was edited on 12/31/18 at 11:54 am
Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
6724 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:55 am to
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My question: the video guy says police officers do not have the right to ask a person for his name. I thought an officer has the right to ask a person for his name. Does anybody here know what's correct?


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They can if they have reasonable suspicion that a crime has been committed, is being committed, or is about to be committed.


I quoted another poster who answered your question.

Can you see the difference between a person looking suspicious and being able to articulate the facts that support a reasonable suspicion that a crime is, did, or will be committed?

Just an fyi:

If you want to help your local law enforcement out a little when you contact the police, you could always lie about the suspicious person's activities.

"There's a guy just walking around my neighborhood, and it looked like he was smoking a marijuana cigarette."

It'd be illegal on your part, but it would help the police to legally detain and id the fellow. In this scenario, the police are investigating a person for possible possession of a cds. This could easily be articulated: "a witness stated that he was smoking a marijuana cigarette."

It doesnt change anything, but I'd rather the constitution be trampled by someone who hasn't taken an oath to uphold it.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
45556 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:57 am to
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I wish people could get "detained" on here for acting weird.
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place would shut down
Especially in a nsfw thread with an OT 7 or above.

The weird shite said in those threads is creepy as frick.
This post was edited on 12/31/18 at 11:59 am
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133365 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 11:58 am to
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They can ask questions just like anyone else in public could but they can’t (legally) make you stop.
The police officer in the video never asked him to stop taking the video that I heard.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
102836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
45463 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:02 pm to
You’re a dumbass.

Cops can stop, question, ask for a name for almost any reason. This isn’t some trampling of citizens rights.

I didn’t watch your video.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
15900 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:02 pm to
I was responding to someone saying there are places and things you can’t photograph, not the video it’s self.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:03 pm to
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They can if they have reasonable suspicion that a crime has been committed, is being committed, or is about to be committed.


So in a cop’s eyes, anytime they wish.
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:03 pm to
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The police officer in the video never asked him to stop taking the video that I heard.
He means stop freely going about his day, not stop videoing. For an officer to prevent you from freely going about your day is a detention and they have to meet certain standards to be able to do that legally.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:05 pm to
I dont expect every law enforcement officer in the country to know the results of Musumeci v. U.S. Department of Homeland Security. Thats why if he doesnt like it take it to the court to decide. At least we will know of the douche is traveling around just trying to make money off the government.

He also wasnt arrested like in that case. Only real infraction I see is removing his wallet. Stopping him and asking who he is and what he is doing is not against anyones rights.
This post was edited on 12/31/18 at 12:07 pm
Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
6724 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:06 pm to
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If I drove to your trailer park, and started shooting video of your trailer, you wouldn't come see what the frick I was doing?


Absolutely I would. I would also expect that the police quickly show up to Lot 27 and find out what the frick the guy is doing near my single-wide.

I'd also be upset if the the officer walked up on my deck, knocked on the door, and told me that they couldn't legally identify the a-hole who was shooting video of my mobile home.

However, that doesn't change the fact that we all have certain rights in this country. If you don't like them, they can be changed. I promise you that law enforcement won't mind not havin those pesky rights interfering with their investigations.
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
54548 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:08 pm to
Oi vey! He threw me on the hood! What a douche! Stop casing the FBI building. Remember Timothy McVeigh?
Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
6724 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:08 pm to
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Cops can stop, question, ask for a name for almost any reason. This isn’t some trampling of citizens rights.


You're wrong.

But that's what they want you to think, good little sheep.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
15900 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:09 pm to
You don’t expect police to know the law? I say that you he and cheek. I would expect every department to be aware of it and have provided information to the rank and file about how to handle public photography.
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:12 pm to
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. Stopping him and asking who he is and what he is doing is not against anyones rights.

That's wrong so far as the stopping means he isn't free to just go about his business.
Posted by scottfruget
Member since Nov 2010
3392 posts
Posted on 12/31/18 at 12:12 pm to
Timothy McVeigh means all other citizen rights must be trampled? That’s a dumb argument. Same reason you can’t carry shampoo or liquids on a plane over one person. I don’t want my rights determined by one extreme case.

Of course you should feel free to waive all of yours. I’m sure you are rushing out to do this like the libs are sending in more taxes voluntarily.
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