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re: If you want to kill yourself, friggin call someone first. Please.

Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:02 pm to
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
60823 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:02 pm to
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Judging from your location... we probably know the same individual and I agree..out of everyone I know or ever have known he would be the last person I thought could commit suicide. Depression is a silent disease and often those suffering the most seem the most outgoing and hardworking...it helps to keep the pain at bay to stay busy..until it doesnt. It is a terrible loss for his family, friends, and community.


If his initials were HH, it’s the same guy. He was very active in the church and his kids activities. Just a normal guy with a solid marriage and no addictions.
Roughest funeral that I’ve been to.
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
10590 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:15 pm to
I agree. We also need to be attentive to what friends are saying to us. When they say something out of normal, we need to talk directly to them about what they are thinking. Be that friend. I have a friend going thru something for a couple years and one time wished he would just die. I stepped in right quick and directly told him to get it off his chest. Then told him I'm not interested in finding out he committed suicide so be real with me. I check on him as I see fit.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
21269 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:36 pm to
Most people who are suicidal don't believe that anyone can help them. Hopelessness is difficult to overcome.
Posted by FutureCorridor49
US 90
Member since May 2023
572 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 8:46 pm to
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I should have known better.


No you shouldn’t have.

It is not your fault. You did not do anything wrong, something wrong was done to you.

It is not your fault. You didn’t do or cause this.

It is not your fault.
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired - 31 years
Member since Feb 2019
5747 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 9:05 pm to
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Interestingly enough, I'm dealing with kind of a similar situation. A friend of mine killed himself a couple weeks back and his wife/parents have not mentioned anything about it anywhere. How long do you wait before starting to discuss it publicly/on social media to at least begin getting the word out? Also bear in mind, I don't really know anyone in his family. Was a high school buddy.



My suggestion is for you to stay in your lane.
Posted by The Four Horsemen
Drawing Nearer
Member since Jan 2021
1 post
Posted on 11/14/24 at 9:19 pm to
Never post on here, after reading this thread I had to post. My dad committed suicide 22 years ago. Today is his birthday. No coincidences. If you are feeling this way, get help. It’s there. It’s a permanent fix to a temporary problem. Navy veteran. Miss him everyday.
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
6650 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 9:30 pm to
Are you under the impression that someone willing to take their own life can be saved by simply “calling someone”?

Why didn’t all the millions of suicidal people before him think of that. It’s so simple. Just call someone!

Sorry to be that guy but it just doesn’t work out that way.

It’s like asking an alcoholic “why the hell can’t you just stop drinking?” A lot of them can and do seek help and it works. Others just don’t because they’re in too deep and their mental and addiction issues take away all motivation to try to dig themselves out.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
24993 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 4:03 am to
Suicide hurts others. You hurt them because they miss you.Some feel guilt because they couldnt save you or help you. They have to settle your affairs.

Some leave families behind causing hardship.Youre not ending the pain, youre causing more.
Posted by Orphan
south of nowhere
Member since Aug 2008
955 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 4:36 am to
Sometimes it’s not that easy just to “call someone”.
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Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
3221 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 5:36 am to
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Youre not ending the pain, youre causing more.


So someone should continue to exist in misery so the people around them don't have to go through the pain if grieving? That almost sounds selfish of the grievers.











That's not nesessarily my feelings on it but another way of looking at the situation.
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
25713 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 7:42 am to
I’ve had two friends take their lives. Both older with families but adult kids. I also have three families we are friends with that have lost their sons (early 20’s) to suicide. It feels like an epidemic especially with young men.
Posted by stogie5150
Slidell,LA
Member since Aug 2022
31 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 7:46 am to
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Most people who are suicidal don't believe that anyone can help them. Hopelessness is difficult to overcome.


This. this right here.

I also believe that if you have never been there, you will never understand. You wont understand the lifetime of hopelessness, the futility of continued effort for no reward other than continuing breathing. No joy, no happiness, no love, no satisfaction. They don't, and likely never had, the tools to deal with the world we live in.

I have been there for two people that took their lives, and they both told me almost the same words. Its the most hopeless, heartbreaking thing I ever witnessed.

And some of us just exist. I am one of those people. Watching my parents wither and die changed me. But I am not going anywhere. The world will have to deal with my angry bitter arse for as long as I can hang on. We never had our shite together, we dont know how, and talking to some pointy headed therapist who's never had a bad day in her life, a REAL bad day, isnt going to fix it.

Some of us are just frickin broken. And thats okay. World needs broken people to do jobs you normies won't do.
This post was edited on 11/15/24 at 7:52 am
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
84097 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 7:56 am to
Imma step WAY out of bounds here and say I think a generally happy person can commit suicide. I think it’s possible for a well adjusted person to just feel like the race is over. Not despair, not self loathing, not overwhelming disappointment, but just being tired of carrying the load. Maybe loneliness. Maybe just a sense of been there and done that. Just general spiritual and emotional weariness. Lack of resilience. Lack of self regard.

I’m not making a moral case for suicide, I’m just saying I think it’s theoretically possible to be mostly ok but just tired and opt out. Especially if you think silence or a better/other reality exists.
This post was edited on 11/15/24 at 8:11 am
Posted by Tigahs2007
MS
Member since Dec 2013
175 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 8:28 am to
I'll never understand it. He was a great guy. We weren't always friends but finally we realized both of our impressions of each other were misguided through other's opinions. We reconciled and became good friends. His death made absolute no sense to me and he had some very close brothers that would've came at a moments notice. I truly hate it for his kids.
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
6650 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 11:18 am to
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Suicide hurts others. You hurt them because they miss you.Some feel guilt because they couldnt save you or help you. They have to settle your affairs.

Some leave families behind causing hardship.Youre not ending the pain, youre causing more.


I understand that, I’m not saying suicide is a good option for anyone

I’m saying that someone with the resolve to go out and end it needs a hell of a lot more than “just talk to someone.” Ironically this attitude that all they need to do is just talk to someone is why they feel so misunderstood and alone.

It wouldn’t be solved by “just talking to someone.” Medication is probably required in the short term, specialized support groups that you meet with preferably every day, 1 on 1 therapy, possibly group therapy as well, and this is all IF they have no substance abuse issues, which is a whole other set of things.
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