If you want to hear the sounds of a depressed workforce, come listen to Chicago PD scanner

I don't know if any of you are familiar with the union structure of firefighters and police these days, especially in large cities - but the vast majority of them make huge money when you look at all the overtime and the retirement.

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Yeah but they get to shoot all the dogs they want. You can't put a price on that.

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That's a rather racist way of saying black people.

Yea, many of them are buying private jets with that 30k BR police start off with.

30k to deal with one of the highest violent crime rates in the US seems reasonable.

Every bit helps though.

Have you ever listened to the Jackson, MS scanner? Chicago can’t be any worse.

I don’t know about large cities like Chicago but I was a FF in my hometown (population about 100,000) and my starting pay was 26.5k. When I left after 6 years I was making a whopping 34.3k. That’s including me achieving a higher rank. Our Captains start out at 50k. That was only installed recently. My Captain when I left was a 24 year employee and was only making 52k. When the city decided to finally give us a pay raise he was excluded because he was already above the new 50k mark for captains. Overtime was paid as straight time, not time and a half. City matched 1.25% on 401k. Benefits were expensive and weren’t that great.

I’m sure FF’s in the large cities can make good money but I’m willing to bet 90% of the FF’s are having to work two jobs just to make ends meet.

Chicago PD has really gone to hell ever since Carl Winslow retired.

Officers with Chicaho PD with no rank start at 48,000 and they max out at 99,000 at the 30 year mark.