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re: If you have kids starting to search for college/career... what is left worth pursuing?

Posted on 2/6/24 at 3:12 am to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62147 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 3:12 am to
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One of the most pervasive lies on this site told by people not in the trades.

I've said it numerous times, if you really think trades are a goldmine, walk into any supply house and ask the tired broken down men if they want their own kids to go into the trades.


Thank you. The trades can be a great career path for some, but this “everyone should go into the trades” thing that gets parroted on this board a lot is stupid (and seems like some sort of psyop to be honest).
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62147 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 3:20 am to
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Save up a little seed money and open your own shop, and yes. Absolutely. I work with them everyday. Believe me - they’re doing very, very well out there.


This is another pervasive belief … open your own shop. Of course, not everyone has the skills needed to have their own shop for one thing.
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10713 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:17 am to
The trades aren't for everyone and if you're not a hard worker and self starter don't start your own business.

If you're not making a $100k a year in a trade then you are working for the wrong company. If you are willing to work hard and got common sense you can make over $150k easy.

I'm 51 and just started a new job which requires me to learn different equipment, best move I could have made.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36511 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:22 am to
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Thank you. The trades can be a great career path for some, but this “everyone should go into the trades” thing that gets parroted on this board a lot is stupid (and seems like some sort of psyop to be honest).


100%

I was in the trades. There is a reason I went back to school, frick working in the heat and cold

All these people on this site who work in an office screaming go to the trades are dumb AF. They have never worked in the trades and don’t understand how much it sucks dick, how hard the work can be and they all talk about 6 figures…which is bullshite. They also act like everyone is cut out to be the owner of a company…it isn’t nearly as easy as people make it out to be

Go talk to people in the trades….they will tell you the opposite most of the time and you will realize they are not the kind of person you want to work around daily. Certainly not someone you would want your daughter to marry.
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
6385 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:23 am to
Have a friend that is self employed in trades, good money. But working in the heat 5days a week, no insurance and no retirement benefits suck for him.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36511 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:32 am to
No they fricking don’t. Maybe top 1% and those guys are in management and owners not in the trades anymore. Full of shite.

Go look at the average, median, mid career etc for plumbers, welders, hvac etc. it’s all available online. Quit spouting off stupid shite.

No wonder y’all are in the trades, yall don’t understand basic percentages.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:33 am to
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If you're not making a $100k a year in a trade then you are working for the wrong company. If you are willing to work hard and got common sense you can make over $150k easy.


That's a pretty broad and ridiculous statement all in one
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66151 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:40 am to
It depends on the trade. I see the benefit packages for a lot of them. I think most plumbers/pipefitters working a lot of hours are easily clearing $100k and pushing $150k. I don't think rough carpenters are. Brick/Tile work is probably somewhere in between.
Posted by Park duck
Sip
Member since Oct 2018
602 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:40 am to
SKREW SKOOL GO GET ON DA RIG BAW. You'll have an F2fiddy and a trailer in no time
Posted by TTU97NI
Celina, TX
Member since Mar 2017
1264 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:45 am to
I have a 20 yo going to CC and I am pushing for him to work for the city. He can stay here for as long as he needs to get going, retire in 25 years and have full benefits and pension. beats spending 100K on college and having debt for 15$/hr/. you have to have a specific plan for college these days. law engineering medicine. Just a business degree gets you what?
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
11726 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:53 am to
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Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36511 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:58 am to
So you want them to work 1000 hours of overtime to make 100k +? That’s your suggestion for a good career? A career that has notoriously low retirement and low benefits?

Just encourage them to be an operator. Better pay and better benefits and atleast of you are working ot it’s inside most of the time.


Love people on this board…you can make 100-150k in the trades…if you work 1500 hours of OT
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
58819 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 9:59 am to
this site is full of office drones who missed their calling as blue collar business tycoons
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36511 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:00 am to
Business degree gets you In the door at a bank, in management at the city etc etc

And you don’t have to take on major debt. Go to a small state school. Work while in school and live at home

This myth that you must go off to college is laughable not to mention in LA and GA they have tops and hope to pay for college. Have to be a retard to not get tops in LA
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
3344 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:09 am to
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Anyone with a trade these days has a blank check as long as they are halfway reliable, dependable, and professional


Yeah, but the money is peanuts when you start out. And the journeymen think it’s a rite of passage to treat apprentices like dogshit. That kind of shite is why no one wants to go into the trades anymore. This is coming from someone who went to trade school, tried it out, and left because the environment was so toxic
This post was edited on 2/6/24 at 10:11 am
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
11726 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:12 am to
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This myth that you must go off to college is laughable not to mention in LA and GA they have tops and hope to pay for college. Have to be a retard to not get tops in LA


I must go to Prestigious U and spend 5x the cost of Local U to get the same job making the same pay!
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:15 am to
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This myth that you must go off to college is laughable not to mention in LA and GA they have tops and hope to pay for college. Have to be a retard to not get tops in LA


Alabama is giving away free educations to Louisiana and out of state students that don’t even need the money.

In some cases it’s cheaper to send them to Bama than it is to send them to LSU even with TOPS
This post was edited on 2/6/24 at 10:16 am
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
98722 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:20 am to
My kids know that neither of them are staying in Louisiana to start their career so they don’t plan to go to college here either

Living at home won’t be an option because we are moving when youngest finishes high school too.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:25 am to
Y'all coming over here to the sandy beaches of MS?
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66151 posts
Posted on 2/6/24 at 10:25 am to
When I see a young guy with no debt from his apprenticeship program making $100k, that seems a lot better than going $50-$100k into debt to work at Starbucks.

There are also guys in their late '50's with half a million in a defined contribution plan and say a $5k per month accrued in their defined benefit pension. But, yeah, they're not like that in every trade.
This post was edited on 2/6/24 at 10:27 am
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