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re: If you are black, explain what white privilege looks like
Posted on 6/3/20 at 10:59 pm to doze4
Posted on 6/3/20 at 10:59 pm to doze4
I have dog cussed cops, told them I was going to have their arse fired, (almost did once, but he was baby cop so he just got a warning), “don’t pull over people for bullshite in the rich white people’s neighborhood”, (He wanted to check drivers licenses in carpool line at private school at 7:15 am, I was lucky to have both kids in the car.) I have gotten tickets torn up, got pulled over with 6 AR-15s etc in the car and ended up in gun conversation with cop for 30 minutes, I stopped to help cop change a tire once, dropped of two dozen donuts to state troop I pass all the time, I have hired dozens as private security, etc. They are here to help me and protect me in my mind. They are friends. They have hard jobs for chicken shite pay and I feel I should always try to help them any way I can. God only knows how many contributions I have made to various police organizations, but for decades I always felt obligated to.do so.
I feel absolutely no sense of pressure, or intimidation etc when dealing with police. None. Therefore, nothing bad ever happens.
I have a good friend who is a prominent local surgeon and black. As good a guy as you will ever meet black or white. Our sons played soccer together since they were little kids. Years ago after another one of these killings, at a soccer tournament his wife told us how they had to tell their son, who is a well mannered, yes sir no sir, great kid, how to deal with police. I was shocked? Their son was less “hood” than my pansy son.
I wondered how anyone could ever mistake him for a criminal, he looked like the kid that was Will Smiths cousin from prince of Bel Aire. I was sure she was worried over nothing. Then she tells me how many times her husband had been pulled over in his 150k BMW in route to hospital or coming home late at night or early in am for driving while black. Always released when they see his medical credentials, but clearly pulled over for being possible car theft.
My wife and I decided we should talk to our son about possible police encounters too just to be safe. His response was complete disbelief, “Why would they ever pull me over? I am a nice looking white kid from X?” He simply couldn’t believe any police officer would ever have any interest in him unless he was in a wreck or something, or to help him.
We are both successful professionals with family’s in private school in exclusive neighborhood, with no prior criminal history, both been robbed numerous times, none of our family look anything like criminals, he is significantly more active in local community than I am, and they are all much less hot headed than my son or me. Yet they have a real concern over being mistakenly killed by police. I can’t even imagine anything like that. I have fear of police not getting to my house fast enough, which they also share. They are fairly conservative just like we are. The only real significant difference between us is that he is black.
I am not positive but I think that’s white privilege.
I feel absolutely no sense of pressure, or intimidation etc when dealing with police. None. Therefore, nothing bad ever happens.
I have a good friend who is a prominent local surgeon and black. As good a guy as you will ever meet black or white. Our sons played soccer together since they were little kids. Years ago after another one of these killings, at a soccer tournament his wife told us how they had to tell their son, who is a well mannered, yes sir no sir, great kid, how to deal with police. I was shocked? Their son was less “hood” than my pansy son.
I wondered how anyone could ever mistake him for a criminal, he looked like the kid that was Will Smiths cousin from prince of Bel Aire. I was sure she was worried over nothing. Then she tells me how many times her husband had been pulled over in his 150k BMW in route to hospital or coming home late at night or early in am for driving while black. Always released when they see his medical credentials, but clearly pulled over for being possible car theft.
My wife and I decided we should talk to our son about possible police encounters too just to be safe. His response was complete disbelief, “Why would they ever pull me over? I am a nice looking white kid from X?” He simply couldn’t believe any police officer would ever have any interest in him unless he was in a wreck or something, or to help him.
We are both successful professionals with family’s in private school in exclusive neighborhood, with no prior criminal history, both been robbed numerous times, none of our family look anything like criminals, he is significantly more active in local community than I am, and they are all much less hot headed than my son or me. Yet they have a real concern over being mistakenly killed by police. I can’t even imagine anything like that. I have fear of police not getting to my house fast enough, which they also share. They are fairly conservative just like we are. The only real significant difference between us is that he is black.
I am not positive but I think that’s white privilege.
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Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:02 pm to TutHillTiger
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Then she tells me how many times her husband had been pulled over in his 150k BMW in route to hospital or coming home late at night or early in am for driving while black. Always released when they see his medical credentials, but clearly pulled over for being possible car theft.
How many times? What state is that in? What reason is given when he is pulled over?
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:07 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Why does every minority community outperform black Americans including actual African Americans (from Africa)?
You do know they come here and literally get free handouts right? Ask around. Do some research.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:08 pm to TruBrew
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African Americans
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literally get free handouts right?
Like any other race
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:09 pm to TutHillTiger
And btw his wife and fellow doctors made him buy a “doctors car” so that they would stop pulling him over. They can’t start surgery without him, and these repeated 20 minute police encounters delayed about that many surgery’s a day. He had a nice Camry before, and they thought that might be the reason. I am sure all the other doctors really thought that was it. (He could care less about status symbols as is from a very wealthy family in the to begin with.) It obviously wasn’t the car.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:10 pm to TutHillTiger
Ok pal
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:12 pm to QJenk
QJenk, your parents worked hard to earn money and saved what they could to build a future for you guys. They stayed together (I assume) which built up 2x fast. I'm sure they also avoided participating in criminal activity. Whether that's dope or robbery, avoiding participating in criminal activity is essential. Those are pretty much the building blocks of making a decent life for anyone in America. Anyone can do it. But they have to delay gratification of spending everything today to build a future.
Unfortunately, Most in poverty don't view themselves with any future. So with no future, they live for today. If they see something, they'll rob and get it or steal it or sell dope to get it. After all, if they don't think there will be a tomorrow, they will do all they can to get theirs today. It's the damndest thing to try and get someone living that way to see a future or even to try and attempt to live differently. There isn't a magic solution that is going to change this whole way of thinking. Especially when anyone in those communities who does those things to improve their lives will be called white wash or worse.
Unfortunately, Most in poverty don't view themselves with any future. So with no future, they live for today. If they see something, they'll rob and get it or steal it or sell dope to get it. After all, if they don't think there will be a tomorrow, they will do all they can to get theirs today. It's the damndest thing to try and get someone living that way to see a future or even to try and attempt to live differently. There isn't a magic solution that is going to change this whole way of thinking. Especially when anyone in those communities who does those things to improve their lives will be called white wash or worse.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:24 pm to TutHillTiger
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I am not positive but I think that’s white privilege.
Seems like most people on here are defining white privilege as generally having a better interaction with police if you are white as opposed to being black. There has got to be more to it than that...
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 11:28 pm
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:33 pm to QJenk
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I'll be honest I don't even know. That type of thing bothers me. All I can say is that in my personal Ive always been dedicated to not just be another negative black statistic.
This is a great point. I think you would agree that at some point the responsibility has to fall back on the people. Instead of glorifying gangster behavior, snitches get stitches and “acting white” clean up your side of the street and join a healthy society.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:36 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Why does every minority community outperform black Americans including actual African Americans (from Africa)?
Two letters- IQ
The research shows that IQ is anywhere from .50 to .60 accounted for by genetics. The average IQ of African-Americans is one standard deviation below that of whites. The average IQ of Asians is five or more points higher than whites. The mantra of IQ test being culturally bias is hogwash. The same holds true on nonverbal tests of intelligence The mantra of IQ test being culturally biases is hogwash. The same holds true on nonverbal tests of intelligence. There’s also ample research that shows that IQ accounts for many many things that are associated with predictors of success. And not just financial.
But to answer the original question about white privilege. quick examples. Look up the resume research studies. In short, resumes with very similar educational backgrounds and work history‘s. The ones with traditional white sounding names get more callbacks then the ones with traditional black sounding names. Not talking about the seven syllable names that people make fun of. Traditional black sounding names such as Jamall, Jiwan, Dwayne, Shamika vs the likes of Bradley, Cody, Mary Helen, Karen, David . Blacks tend to get tougher jail sentences from White judges and even black judges . This holds true even when financial status and criminal histories are held in check. Blacks tend to get tougher jail sentences from white judges and even black churches. Also physicians spend more time with white patients than black patients. I think most people know there are advantages to being white, especially a white male. Sure black people and females are afforded certain accommodations. It works both ways.
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 11:42 pm
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:39 pm to ItalianIceMaker
Bottom line. White privilege does not exist. It is a tool used to silence the discussion one side is winning.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:44 pm to DiamondDog
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If I give you people an inch, you take a foot.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:45 pm to TigerstuckinMS
You people peddling the concept of white privilege
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:53 pm to ItalianIceMaker
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The research shows that IQ is anywhere from .50 to .60 accounted for by genetics. The average IQ of African-Americans is one standard deviation below that of whites. The average IQ of Asians is five or more points higher than whites
You don't seriously believe that do you?
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:56 pm to Seaux_cal_tiger
Any motherfricker, white or black, wearing a hoodie in the summer will be profiled by me.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:56 pm to The Pirate King
State is Alabama, was pulled over multiple times every year
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:57 pm to Seaux_cal_tiger
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You don't seriously believe that do you?
I’m not really going to argue about it. But that is absolutely And undeniably true. It has been repeatedly studied in the field of neuroscience and psychology. I will add that there are some data that so that the variance accounted for by genetics in IQ is .35-.50. But that is still extraordinarily high
This post was edited on 6/4/20 at 12:02 am
Posted on 6/3/20 at 11:58 pm to TutHillTiger
And I think you have some valid points but I am not touching that with ten foot pole
Posted on 6/4/20 at 12:09 am to TutHillTiger
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I am not positive but I think that’s white privilege
Okay, but is the grass greener? Is there no white burden?
Examples:
1. I have to make more to achieve the same "success status".
2. It cost more to live in a White Neighborhood.
3. I can't eat whatever I want and still have a 8 pack
4. If I make a grammatical error or mispronounce something, people will correct me
Etc.
In the whole White privilege benchmark...Is a Black man being happier than you equivalent to "You got beat-up by a girl"?
Posted on 6/4/20 at 12:21 am to TutHillTiger
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I am not positive but I think that’s white privilege.
Serious question for you. Have you ever heart of Vietnamese privilege ?
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