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re: if two people follow me around with guns while im going for a jog
Posted on 5/9/20 at 1:22 pm to Hot Carl
Posted on 5/9/20 at 1:22 pm to Hot Carl
Insurance is paid for by millions of people. By not catching this guy do we really believe that was his last car theft? (Car theft 70-80% recidivism. So it's not just my insurance it's everybody else's insurance that has to pay for every other car the guy steals.
I just really wish we could have one of these polarizing incidents where the person is historically innocent. Seems that in every police brutality/excessive use of force claim, the victim has a record...but "this time" we can't say with 100% that he was doing wrong again....so he's "innocent".
These incidents cause chaos. It reminds me of handicap placards. We have them originally for people in wheelchairs (pic on placards), but I can't remember the last time I saw someone in a wheelchair using a handicap placard. Now it's everyone, not even a limp, 20% of the population is "disabled" now.
Allowing animals in restaurants was a ADA accommodation for service animals for the blind. Now people in yoga pants have a service animal in their handbag.
Is this the intent of placards and service animals to help wheelchair and blind...or was it actually intended to be used by 300 times that population?
These arguable cases are used to cast doubt on every other case as if they were all equally "riddle with injustice".
I just really wish we could have one of these polarizing incidents where the person is historically innocent. Seems that in every police brutality/excessive use of force claim, the victim has a record...but "this time" we can't say with 100% that he was doing wrong again....so he's "innocent".
These incidents cause chaos. It reminds me of handicap placards. We have them originally for people in wheelchairs (pic on placards), but I can't remember the last time I saw someone in a wheelchair using a handicap placard. Now it's everyone, not even a limp, 20% of the population is "disabled" now.
Allowing animals in restaurants was a ADA accommodation for service animals for the blind. Now people in yoga pants have a service animal in their handbag.
Is this the intent of placards and service animals to help wheelchair and blind...or was it actually intended to be used by 300 times that population?
These arguable cases are used to cast doubt on every other case as if they were all equally "riddle with injustice".
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Posted on 5/9/20 at 1:42 pm to Kujo
Who jogs in cargo shorts
Posted on 5/9/20 at 1:48 pm to UCFACTS4LIFE
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Who jogs in cargo shorts
Murder victims apparently
Posted on 5/9/20 at 1:54 pm to The Pirate King
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I don’t know how his going for the gun became this defining factor
Because that is the direct action that got him killed
Surely being cornered by 2 vehicles and at least two people with guns drawn had nothing to do with it.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 1:57 pm to oleyeller
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Just dont be out stealing shite and you wont have this problem
Wishing youd get shot in your typing hand
Posted on 5/9/20 at 1:57 pm to HogBalls
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A couple more things I’ve noticed
Should be insightful given your previous takes on the topic...
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Why if you are being chased by white supremacists in a vehicle with guns are you not cutting through yards? Banging on doors for help?
If the guys were chasing him in a vehicle with a shotgun with intent to kill they could have hung out the window at anytime and killed him with a shotgun.
Where did the hammer come from? If he didn’t drop it why just run past it and not pic it up if you are being chased by white supremacists?
There is a lot more to this story we don’t know about.
Wow.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 1:59 pm to slackster
Those are some of the dumbest points I’ve seen in this topic.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 2:01 pm to dgnx6
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my white female Facebook friends did a jog for Ahmaud. I don't want to stir up shite and get fired, but I desperately just want to start posting if we can do this for every black guy that gets murdered.
Probably would be a good way to get these people healthy since thousands kill eachother every year.
Would definitely take a huge chunk of those co-morbidity factors for the "joggers"...
Posted on 5/9/20 at 2:02 pm to HogBalls
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We don’t know the whole story other than what we’ve seen on a 15 second video clip. Quick everyone, let’s make it all about race!
A) it's pretty clearly about race seeing as though the dude was suspicious because he was black
B) admitting that doesn't mean whites across the country are trying to chase down black men and kill them
C) the defense of the killers actions or the "let's wait and hear all the facts" folks would almost certainly have different opinions if the races were reversed.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 2:14 pm to The Pirate King
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Because that is the direct action that got him killed
No. The direct action that got him killed was an overzealous civilian involved in an unlawful citizen’s arrest pulling the trigger when the victim attempted to disarm the shooter and/or defend himself. The victim was legally entitled to do so, especially since he was outnumbered, unarmed, and on foot. It doesn’t really matter if any one person thinks it was advisable or not.
And who was it who brought the shotgun again? The one used to confront a man who they apparently had zero justification to confront this way? It’s pointless and petty to argue that he may not have gotten shot if he hadn’t reached for the gun because there’s no way to know that outcome for sure. What CAN be known, though, is that he definitely would not have been shot by these idiots if they hadn’t brought loaded weapons in the first place. End of story.
According to all of the evidence presented and the relevant GA statutes, literally the only person whose actions were legally justifiable in that incident were Arbery’s ... yet he was killed and the others walked away. It doesn’t matter which of the parties or their actions you find more/less relatable. This a crime in and of itself, and it’s disproportionately much more severe than anything these men claimed they suspected Arbery of doing. They were this close to slipping the hook for it, too.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 2:14 pm to Macintosh
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Gotta love the ignorant racists on this site. What a bunch of hill billy losers
Man I hate that so much is made about race...but damn there’s some prejudice shining right through in this thread. It’s sad.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 2:15 pm to slackster
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it's pretty clearly about race seeing as though the dude was suspicious because he was black
No way man, have you seen how many fake claims of racism there are out there? No way this can be about race when other people lied about racism
Posted on 5/9/20 at 2:30 pm to Gaston
quote:He ran around the opposite side of the truck, away from the man with the gun. The man with the gun ran over to cut him off. At that point it's fight for your life.
You think they would have shot him had he not ran around the front of the truck and started punching that man with the shotgun?
Posted on 5/9/20 at 2:36 pm to slackster
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C) the defense of the killers actions or the "let's wait and hear all the facts" folks would almost certainly have different opinions if the races were reversed.
A 30 year veteran black cop shoots a white felon running down the street who started to assault him... Can't say that Im protesting.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 2:39 pm to Kujo
quote:Extreme misrepresentation of what happened. You can't even be honest about it when the races are reversed.
A 30 year veteran black cop shoots a white felon running down the street who started to assault him... Can't say that Im protesting.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 2:46 pm to rallyTiger
How do we know this attempted citizens arrest was unlawful?
(Sorry, replied to wrong post)
(Sorry, replied to wrong post)
This post was edited on 5/9/20 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 5/9/20 at 2:50 pm to wildtigercat93
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It’s funny people think a hypothetical robbery would make any difference in the case
It does matter though, both for public perception to even what they could be charged with.
Posted on 5/9/20 at 2:50 pm to chryso
Because they didn't witness him commit a crime at the time they began chasing him
Posted on 5/9/20 at 2:52 pm to oleyeller
He stole shite?
Posted on 5/9/20 at 2:55 pm to chryso
quote:The murderers themselves argued that the deceased fit the description of a suspected thief. Georgia law requires that a person have witnessed or have immediate knowledge that the suspect has committed a crime.
How do we know this attempted citizens arrest was unlawful?
Also Georgia courts have interpreted the law to mean that you can only use a reasonable amount of force given the circumstances. Blockading a road armed with guns is way beyond reasonable for suspicion of theft.
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