re: If the entire world attacked the USA...

What blue water navy is going to take Hawaii?

And who gives a frick about the Panama Canal?

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What blue water navy is going to take Hawaii?

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Hopefully Malaysia. They would probably end up attacking Madagascar.

Merica always wins.

I think we would lose over the course of several years. Americans have grown soft and cannot stomach the atrocities and hardships that comes with war. Hell I think about 1/3 of our country would vote to join France right now if given the chance.

One word says the US would win.....

LOGISTICS


But for the hey of it, let's put that word aside and discuss what an invasion of the US would entail. Look at it this way, there are two ways to invade the US, seaborne or over land. Let's look at seaborne first.

Simply put, there is no way even if you combine the rest of the world's navies, and air forces together for them to project sufficient power across across the oceans for a successful seaborne invasion to be plausible. Our navy would slaughter any fleet that tried to assemble anywhere on the globe before it even had the chance to start it's trans-oceanic voyage. And if for some reason a few vessels did manage to leave port, the US sub fleet would be on them like wolves on a new born lamb.

That leaves only the land invasion option. But even here there is that nasty matter of having the vast majority of the world's resources on the wrong side of two huge oceans. but for the sake of argument, let's ignore that fact and look only at what a force invading the US would face. If they come down from Canada, there is the matter of a short campaign season lasting about from early May until perhaps October at best before freezing temps and frequent blizzards will hamper logistics (there's that word again). There is also the matter of what invasion routes this army would take as they come south. Looking at a map of the US, you see an invasion force coming from Canada would on the western flank face the Rockies and the Mississippi rivers that would be issues that had to be dealt with. The Rockies would naturally split a army moving south and being on there defense would allow American Forces to have safe harbor from which to launch counter attacks an ever stretching flank as the invasion force moves south. Of course the world would have to have a separate force west of the Rockies to move down the Pacific coast. But even here they would have to move first through the formidable barrier of the northwest's rain forests and Cascade Range before moving south and still having to deal with the Sierra Nevada Range and the deserts below. Of course by then they would have a logistics (ding ding) train well over 1,000 miles long. And let's not forget about those American forces that could strike from the Rockies all along that long line.

Back on the east side of the Rockies the going would be pretty easy all the way down to the Gulf... Or at least that's what they would think until they actually tried. You see, it is in this area the "world" army would run into things like the 1st Cavalry Division, 1st Infantry Division, and on and on. In other words, in the central part of the continent, they would run into the meat of the US Army's maneuver divisions. And while the world army is beating it's head against this force, the US Air Force will be overhead raining down hell fire itself. So, in short, what looked to be the best and easiest invasion rout (between the Rockies and the Mississippi, in reality will be where the "world army" would be bled white.

But what about east of the Mississippi? Well here the problem they will run into will be rivers.... Lots of rivers. first just to get into the country they will have to cross barriers like the Great Lakes and the St. Lawrence River. Then as they move south they will be confronted by a series of rivers that will all favor the defending Americans. Each river crossing will require them to build up men and material. A river crossing is a huger undertaking almost akin to a miniature D-day. There will have to be things like assembly areas for troops, supply depots (aka logistics) and what all these things amount to is what we use to call a "target rich environment". These "world army" build-ups will be hammered from the air while river crossing points are held by both regular forces (army, marine, and National Guard)as well as irregular forces (think Wolverines!) The world army would become bogged down and bled white before they could cross the Ohio River.

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Man, what? I'm not even sure what you're talking about here.

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He's saying they could substitute another ordinance for nukes and they have such a volume of missiles that we couldn't stop them from crippling us. No word on what ordinance, just "something else."

I'm curious as to what the enemy will be breathing when there isn't any oxygen in the air around them. That'll be a sticky wicket, I can tell you. But then, I guess that would count as a WMD. Your rules suck, OP.

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he never answered where these missles would be fired from...I assume they would have to all be ICBMs

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And how many other countries have ICBMs? I can't imagine too many countries outside of China and Russia having a significant number of those. Maybe the UK and France?

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.... unless they brought them over here. But that goes back to what I was saying earlier about logistics. Basically... how they gonna get them here when we're sinking every boat in the water not crewed by members of the United States Navy?

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But, but, but, 1.5 billion people! Darth, you're a military guy from what I've read. What's the typical size of a troop transport ship? Do they hold 50,000 troops? 10,000? 5,000? The undertaking required to get 1.5 billion troops into Mexico/Canada is astounding.

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unless they brought them over here. But that goes back to what I was saying earlier about logistics. Basically... how they gonna get them here when we're sinking every boat in the water not crewed by members of the United States Navy?

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This is the biggest problem right here for either side, Navys besides subs would be rendered useless if World Powers fought other world powers. They could never get in range to be useful or they would get knocked out. Basically they would have to stick close to home or get sunk. Sure, they work great against shitty middle east countries, but us/China/Russia/Europe all have the ability to eliminate them with missles from a much farther effective range. Ships are obsolete against a modern force.

The insurgency of our world population on our land would be interesting. We would have to setup the internment camps immediately.