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re: Idaho Murders Thread (Links inside)
Posted on 11/22/22 at 7:27 pm to Chucktown_Badger
Posted on 11/22/22 at 7:27 pm to Chucktown_Badger
Well, whatever has happened in other cases, I just want people to always take this information with a grain of salt.
Any one of us could easily be the last person seen with some high profile murder victims sprayed across the news. I want to have the good karma of having people give me the benefit of the doubt.
In any case, the information in that post should be easy to check...if he indeed does live right behind the girls and has a Ka-Bar knife in his social media pics, it would certainly be incriminating.
Any one of us could easily be the last person seen with some high profile murder victims sprayed across the news. I want to have the good karma of having people give me the benefit of the doubt.
In any case, the information in that post should be easy to check...if he indeed does live right behind the girls and has a Ka-Bar knife in his social media pics, it would certainly be incriminating.
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Posted on 11/22/22 at 7:28 pm to Delacroix22
Interesting that the one post has a lot of “details” on how the killings went down.
If that turns out to be accurate, loose lips sink ships, Moscow PD.
If that turns out to be accurate, loose lips sink ships, Moscow PD.
Posted on 11/22/22 at 7:37 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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It's up to you. But I'm a bit of stickler for the "innocent until proven guilty" thing.
Avoid the youtube true crime ninnies then. They're witch hunting people over various cases. I don't see how someone doesn't get sued.
Posted on 11/22/22 at 7:44 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Avoid the youtube true crime ninnies then. They're witch hunting people over various cases. I don't see how someone doesn't get sued.
I only listen to the ones revolving around "solved" cases.
On the off chance I do listen to ones about unsolved cases, I respect the ones that play it fairly and never drag someone's name through the mud. There's a difference between "the police have considered such-and-such a suspect, but there was never anything incriminating him" and "SUCH-AND-SUCH DEFINITELY DID IT. HASN'T HAD HIS DAY IN COURT YET AND THE POLICE ARE DRAGGING THEIR FEET. BUT PEOPLE THINK HE'S CREEPY! C'MON, HE'S GUILTY!"
Posted on 11/22/22 at 7:47 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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On the off chance I do listen to ones about unsolved cases, I respect the ones that play it fairly and never drag someone's name through the mud. There's a difference between "the police have considered such-and-such a suspect, but there was never anything incriminating him" and "SUCH-AND-SUCH DEFINITELY DID IT. HASN'T HAD HIS DAY IN COURT YET AND THE POLICE ARE DRAGGING THEIR FEET. BUT PEOPLE THINK HE'S CREEPY! C'MON, HE'S GUILTY!"
I agree. I think that some are speculating though and bringing people into things that aren't connected, so these sleuths can be the first to claim a killer, on the chance they are correct. Its irresponsible.
Posted on 11/22/22 at 7:57 pm to RogerTheShrubber
If there are pics of him on the internet with a Ka-Bar, they would have been posted everywhere by now
Posted on 11/22/22 at 8:03 pm to wahoocs
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If there are pics of him on the internet with a Ka-Bar, they would have been posted everywhere by now
Yeah, I thought about that too.
I do think the knife's style (combat, long blade, possibly with a distinct serration pattern) is going to be the key to identying a suspect.
DNA only works if you have a suspect sample to compare with. If the killer has never been in the military or never been convicted of a felony, I doubt there's a database out there they can just conveniently compare the DNA evidence to and nail down a killer.
However, Ka-Bars and similar style combat knives are things people like to show off. And while not exactly "uncommon", it's not exactly like 100 percent of the male population owns one either.
If the proportion of the population that would potentially own one is a manageable amount, it probably narrows down the suspect pool considerably, especially in a town of less than 30,000.
Edit: If the knife nicked the bone and the police can tell the general population that the knife has a distinctive serration pattern (e.g. "four notches, close to the hilt") that can further nail down knife for any witnesses who remember seeing one.
This post was edited on 11/22/22 at 8:08 pm
Posted on 11/22/22 at 8:13 pm to UndercoverBryologist
If they have DNA from blood where it shouldn't be, it's not a dead end.
So many folks have done DNA on their blood, and partial matches with their blood may point arrows at a second cousin or a great uncle. Or a niece or nephew of an estranged sibling.
So many folks have done DNA on their blood, and partial matches with their blood may point arrows at a second cousin or a great uncle. Or a niece or nephew of an estranged sibling.
Posted on 11/22/22 at 8:54 pm to br_1560
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live very close to the area, but not in Moscow. One of the crazier parts, for me at least, is how no one is even really talking about it. I don’t expect people to be fearful, but it’s almost a “non-event”.
The students seem relatively worried as many have asked to complete the semester remotely. Or their parents have.
The police do keep saying it was a targeted attack so maybe some aren’t as worried because if that.
Posted on 11/22/22 at 9:51 pm to L.A.
I know that social media posts are everybody’s best or worst depending on what gets most attention, but they did really seemed to be good kids who enjoyed each other’s company and were enjoying life.
Allison Rice seemed the same way.
The loss of life is awful for friends, family, and the surviving roommates. Hopefully they will all get justice.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11457507/Final-videos-Idaho-students-playing-dancing-party-house-killed.html
Allison Rice seemed the same way.
The loss of life is awful for friends, family, and the surviving roommates. Hopefully they will all get justice.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11457507/Final-videos-Idaho-students-playing-dancing-party-house-killed.html
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:00 am to dallastigers
I’ve apparently lived in a box the past few weeks and missed this.
Something I haven’t seen answered yet: Were there five total roommates plus the boyfriend in the house at the time of the killings? 4 killed; 2 survived to call 911?
If so, how did the 2 surviving roommates not hear four people being murdered so violently and brutally that police can barely run a blood analysis?
Something I haven’t seen answered yet: Were there five total roommates plus the boyfriend in the house at the time of the killings? 4 killed; 2 survived to call 911?
If so, how did the 2 surviving roommates not hear four people being murdered so violently and brutally that police can barely run a blood analysis?
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:04 am to StringedInstruments
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If so, how did the 2 surviving roommates not hear four people being murdered so violently and brutally that police can barely run a blood analysis?
Lay out of the house (was 3 stories and shifted layout), probably a little drunk as well. Had doors closed. They did hear noises, they just thought it was normal partying, etc.
This post was edited on 11/23/22 at 9:05 am
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:28 am to Delacroix22
Has it been confirmed that the creepy guy from food truck actually lives at 500 Queen Rd behind the girls house? That’s the first I’m hearing of him being their neighbor.
It’s a good theory, but there is a lot of info that would need to be confirmed. If cop’s really knew all of this, they would have asked to search the residence at 500 Queen rd.
Pictures of him with a Ka-Bar knife would make it pretty incriminating evidence. I’m not buying all that unless the cops are waiting for results on a DNA test or something.
It’s a good theory, but there is a lot of info that would need to be confirmed. If cop’s really knew all of this, they would have asked to search the residence at 500 Queen rd.
Pictures of him with a Ka-Bar knife would make it pretty incriminating evidence. I’m not buying all that unless the cops are waiting for results on a DNA test or something.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:28 am to NATidefan
Press Conference update at 3pm today.
youtube to conference
This has been planned since Sunday or Monday, so may not be anything riveting, just an update.
Probably go something like this...
youtube to conference
This has been planned since Sunday or Monday, so may not be anything riveting, just an update.
Probably go something like this...
This post was edited on 11/23/22 at 9:29 am
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:37 am to lsufb1912
Always keep in mind with unsubstantiated rumors like this, it could just be someone with a vendetta against “food truck guy” trying to bully him and ruin his reputation.
My bs alarm is going off since there haven’t been any social media photos yet (seeing as how the rumor says he has posted pictures of him with the knife on social media).
Edit: Even then, anyone can own such a knife in Idaho. Doesn’t make it a crime. Which gets us to the second part, him supposedly living right behind the girls. Which, by now, ought to have been substantiated, but seemingly no reputable news agency covering this story has picked up on yet.
My bs alarm is going off since there haven’t been any social media photos yet (seeing as how the rumor says he has posted pictures of him with the knife on social media).
Edit: Even then, anyone can own such a knife in Idaho. Doesn’t make it a crime. Which gets us to the second part, him supposedly living right behind the girls. Which, by now, ought to have been substantiated, but seemingly no reputable news agency covering this story has picked up on yet.
This post was edited on 11/23/22 at 9:41 am
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:40 am to LSUGrrrl
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The police do keep saying it was a targeted attack so maybe some aren’t as worried because if that.
Do they mean the attacker knew them? It being someone they knew or not random and them being targeted is not the same thing. Bad terminology by these police clowns.
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The Moscow Police Department (MPD) described the attack as isolated and targeted in a Tuesday press release.
Most serial killers do targeted attacks. They pick victims and stalk them. Not sure why using the phrase targeted attack would ease any minds.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:43 am to Delacroix22
quote:Occum's Razor would not surprises me on this case at all.
Just something to think about
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:45 am to Crow Pie
Especially if this is a creepy dude who stalked and killed some college girls I don’t see why people would be at ease over the police saying it was a targeted attack. No shite it was targeted. He may target other girls next.
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:55 am to The Boat
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Do they mean the attacker knew them? It being someone they knew or not random and them being targeted is not the same thing. Bad terminology by these police clowns
According to this guy he acts like they think the killer knew them... but he is a retired a FBI guy just talking to the media, so who knows how much he knows.
LINK
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As for the killer's attributes, Clemente said he didn't think the attack was random and described the killer as "sloppy and young."
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"It just seems like a targeted event," said Clemente, who is an expert in criminal profiling. "I think it was building up in him for a while, and he just lashed out."
This post was edited on 11/23/22 at 9:59 am
Posted on 11/23/22 at 9:56 am to NATidefan
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As for the killer's attributes, Clemente said he didn't think the attack was random and described the killer as "sloppy and young."
So was Derrick Todd Lee in the beginning
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