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Posted on 11/19/22 at 10:51 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 11/19/22 at 10:51 am to
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Yet overly emotional men are responsible for most murders of these type & violence in general.


True, mostly 16-25. Blacks commit homicide at 8 times the rate of white people.

Maybe we should focus on the demographics most likely to be violent.

Posted by schatman
Montana
Member since Nov 2018
2925 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 10:57 am to
That’s the thing: I’m not sure if there is not any sexual aspect. They’ve given bits and pieces of info. Guys on the job 30 years say it’s the worst crime scene they’ve ever seen- that could be due to the nature of it being a mass murder, but they also may have taken their time so to speak on one of them.
My guess is a drug-fueled spree killer. He found an unlocked door, looked for money, and killed because he was all jacked up on something
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
25890 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 11:08 am to
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I’m almost to the point where whoever did this it’s not their first rodeo. 4 people with a knife with two other people in the house and escapes undetected. Just seems a little too clean for a crime of passion where emotions are involved.

Yeah, this was some Francis Dolarhyde type of shite.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 11/19/22 at 12:03 pm to
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1. No sexual aspect.



That we know of, or has been reported yet.

Killer could have also been gay, or female, or a gay female, or someone who has a compulsion to kill with edged weapons.

Not all serial killers are rapists, just sayin
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 12:16 pm to
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Not all serial killers are rapists, just sayin


YEAH! Some of us are just REALLY passionate about the killin’ part.


Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
14654 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 12:22 pm to
knives are dangerous, we should ban them
Posted by CoastLSUFan
Member since Nov 2010
749 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 12:28 pm to
For some of these sickos, the act of stabbing IS a sexual act. They actually get off on that shite.
Posted by BigDawg0420
Hamsterdam
Member since Apr 2010
7485 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 12:29 pm to
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Have the police checked to see if these kids were trafficking drugs to the fraternities?


My first reaction was cartel retribution when I heard it was 4 college kids brutally murdered in an edged weapon attack. That’s some south of the border brutality.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 12:38 pm to
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My first reaction was cartel retribution when I heard it was 4 college kids brutally murdered in an edged weapon attack. That’s some south of the border brutality.


Sicario and Narcos have got everyone jumping to the “cartel” explanation these days, it seems.

Cartels ain’t gonna drive all the way up to the Canadian border to off some kids who may be a bit behind on their payments to their reefer dealer.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18048 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 12:42 pm to
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Not dismissing the possibility of drunk/horny dialing, in fact that's probably what happened, but it's odd that her roommate would also call him 3 times.


Maybe she thought he wasn’t answering because it was her phone calling so she tried calling from her roommate’s phone to see if he’d answer for the roommate
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
10731 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 12:49 pm to
The very fact girls that age called anybody is interesting. Especially more than once.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
49825 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 12:54 pm to
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The very fact girls that age called anybody is interesting.


I found that odd also. No text first. I know I’m not a young college girl but I never call anybody unless I need their attention immediately.
Posted by Dantheman504
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Member since Jun 2013
4984 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 12:59 pm to
It’s 3 am. How many people who want something at 3 am just send a simple text and expect a response? If he was sleeping a text wouldn’t wake him up.

They clearly wanted to get his attention. Whether it was a drunk “come over” or a frantic “someone is in our house” we don’t know.

But it’s pretty normal for a college aged girl to call or FaceTime a dude at 2-3 am instead of sending a text. If it was 4pm in the afternoon then yeah a text makes sense.

This post was edited on 11/19/22 at 1:00 pm
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 1:05 pm to
I’m leaning to the phone calls being irrelevant booty call attempts; however, if we can safely assume that either she or her roommate made that 2:52 call, it’s butting up real close to the time of death the coroner estimated (3-4), which means they were killed not too long after they turned out the lights.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11670 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 1:11 pm to
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Cartels ain’t gonna drive all the way up to the Canadian border to off some kids who may be a bit behind on their payments to their reefer dealer.


Now do meth head Neo Nazis trafficking hard drugs in Tri Cities and Spocompton. The NW isn’t all granola soy types.

Also L O L on them just being weed dealers. Somebody doesn’t know that school well enough to be dismissing other non-hollywood theories that aren’t satisfying to crimeporn weirdos.
This post was edited on 11/19/22 at 1:13 pm
Posted by Dantheman504
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Posted on 11/19/22 at 1:17 pm to
The phone call most likely is irrelevant. If they called him because someone was in the house then they wouldn’t have just gone to sleep.

Chances are they called him because the girl wanted him to come over and he didn’t answer so they went to sleep.

The shitty thing is that if he did go over there and they were all wake with lights on then maybe this wouldn’t have happened. But who knows.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 1:18 pm to
Fine, the Tijuana Cartel dispatched an assassin to eliminate 4 pasty liberal arts kids in Moscow, Idaho who were slinging heroin on the Cartel’s turf.
Posted by DaleGribble
Bend, OR
Member since Sep 2014
6821 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 1:33 pm to
I think that the police should be looking at whoever drove them home as a suspect. It's possible that the 6 phone calls to this Jack person had something to do with something that happened on their way home.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25470 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 1:49 pm to
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quote:

1. No sexual aspect.



That we know of, or has been reported yet.



Pretty sure that Daily Mail article or maybe one of the more recent articles discussing the coroner’s findings states that there was no sexual assault.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19979 posts
Posted on 11/19/22 at 2:43 pm to
The more I think about this the more I lean towards the killer or killers not being intimately familiar with the residents of the house. If it was someone they knew and they were familiar with the place, they probably would have known there were two other roommates that lived there. You’ve killed 4 people, can’t take a chance the other two roommates witnessed something. That didn’t happen here though which probably points to the killer or killers not knowing 2 other people lived there.
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