re: Iceland eliminates 100% of pregnancies with Down Syndrome

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I am not for this but trying to understand how it is eugenics by definition.

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By removing undesirables.

I get your argument- perhaps it is more genocide.

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People like to compare everything today with Nazis, mostly in a grossly incorrect manner. But what they’re doing in Europe, especially Iceland, is taking a page directly from the Nazi playbook…

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Aktion T4 (German, pronounced [ak'tsi?o?n te? fi??]) was a campaign of mass murder by involuntary euthanasia which targeted people with disabilities and the mentally ill in Nazi Germany. The term was first used in post-war trials against doctors who had been involved in the killings.[4] The name T4 is an abbreviation of Tiergartenstraße 4, a street address of the Chancellery department set up in early 1940, in the Berlin borough of Tiergarten, which recruited and paid personnel associated with Aktion T4.[5][b] Certain German physicians were authorised to select patients "deemed incurably sick, after most critical medical examination" and then administer to them a "mercy death" (Gnadentod).[7] In October 1939, Adolf Hitler signed a "euthanasia note", backdated to 1 September 1939, which authorised his physician Karl Brandt and Reichsleiter Philipp Bouhler to begin the killing.

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The killings took place from September 1939 until the end of World War II in Europe in 1945. Between 275,000 and 300,000 people were killed in psychiatric hospitals in Germany, Austria, occupied Poland, and the Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia (now the Czech Republic).

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When your society embraces the idea of “life unworthy of life” and that it’s a mercy to kill someone because they’re deemed better off dead, that means your society has embraced genocide. That’s what they’ve done in Europe and Iceland now. And they’re slaughtering the most helpless and innocent in the name of mercy. It’s an abomination against humanity and God himself.

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85% accuracy on test results.

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"Oopsies, 15%, sorry bout that"

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I was in Europe not two weeks ago and it surprised me how few people with Downs we came across

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Im gonna be honest with you, I've never left the great USA and I couldnt tell you the last time I saw a Downs person. I see little people more often and even that's rare. And im out in public all day long. I know the traditional look but maybe I'm missing something.

That's exactly why China's population will be 750M by 2050.
They already sell more adult diapers thsn baby diapers.


ER O ER.

I think that father had something to do with the pregnancy so it's not HER choice. There's a father and a child involved. And it's called abortion.

As you said, it is eugenics by its definition (that was present before Sanger, more specifically in Victorian England). And I'd have some serious concern over a test that has a decent statistical rate of false positives, as testing for DS does.

That said, services to help families who have children with Downs are continually cut by our own government. And people aren't donating in to non-government entities like they used to who are often times a stop gap between what DS families can afford and government services.

We have a great organization here in Louisville called Dreams with Wings that facilitates respite care for parents, daytime services for children and young adults with DS and ASD, etc. but they also utilize government funding like the Michelle P. Waiver (Medicaid) which will have funding cut due to the BBB passed in July.

If you're telling families they cannot have an abortion in these cases, what are we doing to help these families and these children once they're born? What are we as a society going to do when Medicaid funding it cut and Medicare funding (triggered by tax cuts in the BBB) happen to support these folks?

Everybody wants to rail against what Iceland is doing but a lot of these same people are the first folks I see on this website that want to get rid of Medicaid/Medicare.

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Was NOT surprised they have universal healthcare.

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every country has universal health care except us

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was disappointed that over 62% are supposedly Christian.

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Key word

The majority of Christians in many European nations don’t really practice the religion anymore. Just call themselves that because they were raised as such.

I saw an article about most Italians not really attending church at all apart from baptisms, confirmations, and maybe weddings if they’re held in a church. A lot of people surveyed said they didn’t even pray anymore. They do send their kids to Catholic schooling but after school, the kids mostly leave the church. And this is in a country that’s like 80%+ Catholic.

I'm not arguing the Father didn't have anything to do with the pregnancy or that she's aborting a baby...

I'm stating it's ultimately her choice, she could not tell the the father and get the abortion without his knowledge... You don't need both of their consent...