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re: ICE has a chance to do the funniest thing
Posted on 12/18/25 at 2:05 pm to mmmmmbeeer
Posted on 12/18/25 at 2:05 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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because they crossed an imaginary border
Is a legally defined border that is agreed upon by the countries on each side of it by treaties and (although not as necessary in my mind) is also recognized by the UN and international law actually imaginary in your mind?
Why don’t you go illegally cross our southern border with Mexico and see what happens to you in Mexico, Or trespass onto someone’s property that also has legally defined and recognized boundaries or what you would equate to “imaginary” boundaries.
Calling a legal national border imaginary is one of the most ignorant things the left regurgitates on social media. Do yourself a favor and quit doing it.
This post was edited on 12/18/25 at 2:06 pm
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Posted on 12/18/25 at 2:05 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Does that really matter when you rule by executive order?
Yes and no.
The BIA or AG can issue any precedent decision they want, but especially in a post-Chevron world, the circuit courts and SCOTUS ultimately get to decide the legality of the situation. So even if a DNC AG tried to say that economic persecution is enough for asylum the 5th, 6th, or 11th Circuits would for sure shut it down. So in that sense it does matter.
On the other hand the Biden policy of minimal to no border screening is an executive policy decision, so case law doesn't matter much, which is my point earlier.
Trump has secured the border in 11 months tighter than it has been in my lifetime. Even some of the biggest leftist I know agree with that because ultimately we need to know who is in our country. That can go away with the stroke of a pen in January 2029 though.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 2:06 pm to dallastigers
Mmmmmcreampie is pulling a Johnny Depp in the court room in Blow 
Posted on 12/18/25 at 2:14 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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There are 2.2 million asylum applications in the US, so no, “most” did not tell border patrol they were seeking asylum.
I feel like I'm exchanging messages with a fricking giraffe. Oh, that's right. I feel like I'm exchanging messages with a fricking gerbil.
Like you do understand CLAIM and APPLY are different words, right? One is done at the time of border crossing and the other occurs inside the US.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 2:14 pm to lionward2014
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So even if a DNC AG tried to say that economic persecution is enough for asylum the 5th, 6th, or 11th Circuits would for sure shut it down. So in that sense it does matter.
It “matters,” yes, but the play was to clearly let them in, securing their votes and then stack the system with your own legislators, judges, and administrators and it damn near worked. The majority of the battle is just getting them here, which they were able to accomplish under the bullshite economic and climate claims.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 2:15 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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It “matters,” yes, but the play was to clearly let them in, securing their votes
Non-citizens can vote now? And i'm the rahtard?
Posted on 12/18/25 at 2:18 pm to mmmmmbeeer
Is the edge of your property line imaginary?
Let me guess. You don't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of, so things like that don't matter to you.
Go back to your creampies.
Let me guess. You don't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of, so things like that don't matter to you.
Go back to your creampies.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 2:18 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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Non-citizens can vote now?
In Minnesota, you can register to vote with a valid drivers license and any resident, regardless of immigration status (ie illegal) can get a valid drivers license, so yes, non citizens can vote.
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And i'm the rahtard?
That is correct
Posted on 12/18/25 at 2:35 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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It “matters,” yes, but the play was to clearly let them in, securing their votes and then stack the system with your own legislators, judges, and administrators and it damn near worked.
I genuinely can't understand the reasoning behind Biden's border policy. What you say makes sense, but the easier route would be to simply offer an amnesty for people already here.
Under Trump the highest month of approvals for those in court proceedings was 4400 approvals and Biden's highest was 4700. 300 is negligible. Not like these people were coming in and instantly being given status.
Truly no rational basis for essentially erasing the border for 4 years other than to do the opposite of Trump.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 2:38 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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In Minnesota, you can register to vote with a valid drivers license and any resident, regardless of immigration status (ie illegal) can get a valid drivers license, so yes, non citizens can vote.
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I'm enjoying this exchange. You present yourself as Mr. Highnmighty on here but with each post you prove yourself to be more and more ignorant on BASIC things.
Dur du durrrr they can get a license so they can vote durrrr
Jesus fricking christ, dude.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 2:39 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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Dur du durrrr they can get a license so they can vote durrrr
If an illegal immigrant can go to the DMV and get a drivers license with a water bill, and then go straight to a voter registrar and register to vote with said valid drivers license how can illegal immigrants not vote?
If you think they should just be able to vote just say so. We’d disagree, but you’re entitled to your opinion. Ignoring basic facts and presenting yourself as an imbecile just makes everyone laugh at you
This post was edited on 12/18/25 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 12/18/25 at 2:41 pm to lionward2014
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I genuinely can't understand the reasoning behind Biden's border policy. What you say makes sense, but the easier route would be to simply offer an amnesty for people already here
You can’t do it all overnight. Let em in. Two years later change the laws that allows any resident to get a drivers licenses. A year after that, change the laws that allows a valid drivers license as voter ID. It takes 5 or 6 years, but at that point you’ve let those people vote.
Harder to do it all at one time than to just inch your way to where you want to be
Posted on 12/18/25 at 3:01 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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I'm enjoying this exchange. You present yourself as Mr. Highnmighty on here but with each post you prove yourself to be more and more ignorant on BASIC things. Dur du durrrr they can get a license so they can vote durrrr Jesus fricking christ, dude.
in short: mmmmmbeer lost the argument and is now throwing a temper tantrum.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 3:13 pm to Sun God
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How easy would we have to make the process to get these “good hombres” to want to get their asses in gear?
They had a good thing going for awhile
That's a fair question. I think you still use similar process to current naturalization where you're still vetted, still have to pass a citizenship test, background check, still have to complete the N-400, etc. If they've been here for years already but don't have a criminal background here, I think you at least find a way to give them a shot to pursue (another poster mentioned amnesty for their illegal entry).
I'm sure there's a way you could incentive it for them. Maybe waive the fee? That's probably beyond my scope in what I know about immigration law/process.
This post was edited on 12/18/25 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 12/18/25 at 3:21 pm to Sun God
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How easy would we have to make the process to get these “good hombres” to want to get their asses in gear? They had a good thing going for awhile
There, generally speaking, is no process to legalize yourself for most people. It’s why anchor babies are a big myth.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 3:41 pm to Sun God
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So what’s your solution?
I don't have one, and I'm glad I am not the one that has to come up with a solution. But i do know I am against federal agents raiding states
Anyone that is currently having a house built, or a commercial building built. Expect some major delays, as your timeline you thought you were going to be done by is no longer the case. I have been hearing that some of these homebuilders have completely come to a halt bc of these raids. Have fun finding American concrete, framing, or roofing crews to combat this worker shortage.
NB4 anyone starts bitching saying "they should've hired legal workers" - you could have done your homework as well and hired American only contractors if you feel so strongly about it.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 3:51 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Focus on those with a criminal record
This is what they say they are doing... Tho its pretty evident thats not the case, when I've seen a video of ICE pressing random girl walking thru a walmart parking lot asking her if she was born here, and all sorts of other stuff.
I'm against that in every way shape and form. No agent should just be able to go up to random people and start pressing them like that.
I could easily be mistaken for a hispanic(full european blood tho
), I swear if i get pressed like that girl did by an ICE agent I will happily be getting arrested bc idk if I'd be able to control my mouth I'd be talking so much shite. Then lawyer up and hope for the best. 
Posted on 12/18/25 at 3:55 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Flooding the labor pool for jobs like painters, framers, concrete workers, and farm hands with people willing to live 10 to a single family home and work for the cash equivalent of $3-7/hour has certainly resulted in jobs Americans could be doing evaporating and Americans losing opportunities. This results in increased welfare dependency which has certainly driven a lower quality of life
Have you been to Houston? I can assure you this is not what is happening here. Jobs are plentiful and anyone who wants to work is working. The only people who are making minimum wage are the lowest janitorial and fast food workers. Yes, the illegals have cornered the lawn business, but nobody else wants to do that job for what we want to pay. If someone charged more, many people (me) would just start doing the work myself. Without the illegals, we do not have a large enough labor pool to do the work in our city.
Posted on 12/18/25 at 4:00 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Flooding the labor pool for jobs like painters, framers, concrete workers, and farm hands with people willing to live 10 to a single family home and work for the cash equivalent of $3-7/hour has certainly resulted in jobs Americans could be doing evaporating and Americans losing opportunities. This results in increased welfare dependency which has certainly driven a lower quality of life
We taxpayers are subsidizing gainfully employed people all over this country. Walmart is notorious for this…their wages are shite and they try their damndest to keep hourly workers from reaching full-time so they don’t have to provide them benefits (unless they’ve been sued over this behavior since I read about it).
Posted on 12/18/25 at 4:09 pm to JTM72
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I don't have one
Appreciate the honesty
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But i do know I am against federal agents raiding states
Who should be rounding up the “bad hombres”?
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