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re: Ian Observation Thread (Storm Track and Radar inside)

Posted on 9/25/22 at 7:35 am to
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 9/25/22 at 7:35 am to
This was the 06z spaghetti model run



Posted by mightynine
Member since May 2006
1237 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 7:38 am to
The concern I have right now is we still don’t have a great idea on where the center of this thing is (because it still ain’t stacked as of the 5am update) and it’s actual motion is still uncertain.

I still believe the GFS and Euro are setting the west and east edges of the path but man, it would be nice if some things could get locked down.

Or not, keep the thing a sloppy mess that never develops, that would be fine.
This post was edited on 9/25/22 at 7:39 am
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66612 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 7:41 am to
This isn't the most ideal scenario from EMA directors all the way to the average citizen. The difference in the two options is pretty significant in regards to planning and possible response.

If it hooks and comes in closer to Tampa, or farther South, it'll be a good bit stronger at landfall. This puts really everywhere from the panhandle to South of Tampa in a bind with very little time to implement a plan.

Really, if you live down that way you have to prepare for all scenarios. We need something to give and things to come together. This is too big of a spread the closer we get.
Posted by lsuman25
Erwinville
Member since Aug 2013
42832 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 7:57 am to
Looks like Ian is poised to strenthen in the near term, it's getting that look
Posted by BananaManCan
Member since Sep 2009
4353 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 8:02 am to
The longer it stays disorganized the more westerly the track becomes or what?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66612 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 8:10 am to
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The longer it stays disorganized the more westerly the track becomes or what?

Not necessarily. It matters where, exactly, it is when it gets its act completely together. If it is a bit Southwest of where it is currently, that influences the path to landfall and vice versa.

It looks like we should solve that riddle over the next several hours.

ETA: but that's not really the biggest issue at play right now regarding the ultimate US landfall. It has more to do with the steering as it approaches Cuba and starts to make the turn. Everything up to Cuba looks pretty similar as far as the Euro and GFS goes.
This post was edited on 9/25/22 at 8:13 am
Posted by USEyourCURDS
Member since Apr 2016
12535 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 8:11 am to
CEM2 can die in a tire fire
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
13614 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 8:13 am to
So 00z is 7pm central time
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66612 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 8:14 am to
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So 00z is 7pm central time

This time of year, yes. When they dick with the clocks again it will be 6pm.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
29131 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 8:20 am to
Flying to the coastal area on NC today for a wedding this week. Have tickets to watch SC play in Columbia next sat. Looking like my flight out of Charlotte next Sunday will be a little bumpy.....
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 9/25/22 at 8:22 am to
Courtesy of @NycStormChaser


Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
75630 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 8:24 am to
CEM2 can EABOD.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66612 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 8:24 am to
Not the best of storms to unveil the new, skinnier cone on.
Posted by Bunta
Member since Oct 2007
12520 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 8:29 am to
At least the 8 to 9 was a small change.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
31976 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 8:30 am to
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NHC_TAFB
@NHC_TAFB

Forecast winds (kt-barbs) and waves (ft-shaded) for Tropical Storm Ian. Ian is forecast to rapidly intensify as it moves across the NW Caribbean through Monday. Seas will build in excess of 25 ft south of Cuba by Monday.

Posted by mightynine
Member since May 2006
1237 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 8:30 am to
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Not the best of storms to unveil the new, skinnier cone on.


TBF, the NHC has been honest about the uncertainty for the track, especially days 4-5, since the start.

I wonder if, when there’s that much uncertainty, if they should issue just a three-day cone.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41861 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 8:33 am to
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Flying to the coastal area on NC today for a wedding this week. Have tickets to watch SC play in Columbia next sat. Looking like my flight out of Charlotte next Sunday will be a little bumpy.....





hehe thx for sharing dude. you are cool
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
38293 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 8:33 am to
quote:

Flying to the coastal area on NC today for a wedding this week. Have tickets to watch SC play in Columbia next sat. Looking like my flight out of Charlotte next Sunday will be a little bumpy.....


Cool

What are you doing the week after that?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66612 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 8:33 am to
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TBF, the NHC has been honest about the uncertainty for the track, especially days 4-5, since the start.


Yeah, I'm not blaming them. This is a pain in the arse system to forecast.

quote:

I wonder if, when there’s that much uncertainty, if they should issue just a three-day cone.


That's not a terrible idea. They could note the uncertainty, give the three day cone, and then do a probabilistic outlook for down the line similar to the SPC day 4-8 outlook.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
9943 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 8:35 am to
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I wonder if, when there’s that much uncertainty, if they should issue just a three-day cone.


Just make a wider cone or just pencil whip one in after the fact.
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