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re: I might be asking a dumb question, but regarding old money southern elites
Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:21 pm to AUCE05
Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:21 pm to AUCE05
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The Mississippi people would be the ones to ask. The legit plantation homes were built there. There was some in AL and LA, but the awesome ones were along the Mississippi River.
The Mississippi Delta has some beautiful homes, but there are others all across the South. Some other places that immediately come to mind are Savannah, GA and Charleston, SC.
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Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:21 pm to Corkfather
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They were mainly wood
And most likely virgin pine. That's like a house made out of lighter knot.
Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:22 pm to AUCE05
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but the awesome ones were along the Mississippi River
If only the mississippi river ran through louisiana. Damn our luck.
Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:25 pm to AUCE05
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The Mississippi people would be the ones to ask. The legit plantation homes were built there. There was some in AL and LA, but the awesome ones were along the Mississippi River.
I don't know. Louisiana seems to have more still standing and being used as tourist attractions. There are a lot in Natchez and Vicksburg, but it seems like St. Francesville, Baton Rouge, and New Orleans have more.
Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:26 pm to deltaland
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My family's (Destrehan Plantation) is now a tourist attraction in New Orleans.
My Italian family worked there off the boat.
This post was edited on 6/14/14 at 8:32 pm
Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:27 pm to baybeefeetz
quote:I bet they worked their off off
My Italian family worked their off the boat
Posted on 6/14/14 at 8:31 pm to Kafka
Man, frick .
This post was edited on 6/14/14 at 8:33 pm
Posted on 6/14/14 at 9:02 pm to deltaland
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My family's (Destrehan Plantation) is now a tourist attraction in New Orleans.
Did they move it. Last time I checked it was still on the river road in Destrehan.
That must have been a job to move it.
Posted on 6/14/14 at 9:10 pm to baybeefeetz
If I'm not mistaken, I believe that the corridor from Baton Rouge has the most old style plantation homes that are tourist attractions. St. Francisville has the best ones to tour in MIO. Now, if your drive down the river road from the Old Mississippi River Bridge to New Roads you'll see the actual homes of where the black workers lived. Those homes are a one room or two room shanty. I think La. has more pre civil war history than any other state.
Posted on 6/14/14 at 9:14 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
In Natchez no not at all. More than a few of them ran off with their slave mistresses to Nola believe it or not.
Upkeep is so ridiculous on most of those houses too that bed and breakfast or federal park is the only option
Upkeep is so ridiculous on most of those houses too that bed and breakfast or federal park is the only option
This post was edited on 6/14/14 at 9:17 pm
Posted on 6/14/14 at 9:18 pm to avondale88
I would never visits a plantation home, they were built on the blood and sweat of an enslaved people, to me it is akin to visiting and paying homage to Auschwitz.
I am a Southern conservative Republican, but I think what these planters did reprehensible. I owe then no respect or honor. Their homes are shrines to slavery.
I am a Southern conservative Republican, but I think what these planters did reprehensible. I owe then no respect or honor. Their homes are shrines to slavery.
Posted on 6/14/14 at 9:32 pm to andouille
I sort of have the same feeling. I don't see how people get married at those places. I am sure people will tell me how i am wrong.
Posted on 6/14/14 at 9:32 pm to andouille
So a home built off enterprise and capitalism through a practice that was common and not frowned upon during those times is the equivalent of a death camp? Auschwitz was specifically designed to murder people, it wasn't a farm. More than 1 million people died there. Have you visited Auschwitz, or any other death camp?
I understand you have an issue with slavery, but comparing plantation houses to a death camp is a bit extreme.
I am no way defending slavery, just stating that a plantation house is not the same as a death camp.
I understand you have an issue with slavery, but comparing plantation houses to a death camp is a bit extreme.
I am no way defending slavery, just stating that a plantation house is not the same as a death camp.
Posted on 6/14/14 at 9:34 pm to rebelcommodore
I just look at them as fine examples of Antebellum architecture and part of our history.
Posted on 6/14/14 at 9:34 pm to andouille
I would love to own one. I think they are beautiful.
Posted on 6/14/14 at 9:36 pm to andouille
quote:were the buildings themselves built by slaves? I thought the wealthy families would hire the architects and construction workers?
they were built on the blood and sweat of an enslaved people,
Posted on 6/14/14 at 9:37 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Or future Presidents..
Posted on 6/14/14 at 9:56 pm to goldenbadger08
My great grandmothers house in Arkansas used to be a plantation home along time ago. If she hadn't put aluminum siding on the house when she remodeled it before she died, it'd be on some registry for historical buildings or something.
There was a front porch that wrapped around, stain glass windows, 14-15 ft ceilings. Pretty damn awesome growing up. After she died, it stayed abandoned for a few years and my great uncle gave my dad a good deal on it. We lived there for a few years but parents decided to move after living there 4-5 years. Where it was located, it had become a bad part of town and there was no yard. It's by no means like the ones in South Louisiana but was considered a plantation.
On the property there was the "maid's quarters" (which is now a regular house), a stable that could hold 6-7 horses (now remodeled into a salon), and the "shack" (currently my great uncles house) where the men lived. All the old living quarters took up about half of a city block. Now, it's basically in the center of town right off Main St.
I'll try and find some pictures
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Yellow Box: Main House. House faced the bottom right corner.
Red Box: The stable, maids quarters, and the mens house.
The plot to the left used to be a pasture but they ended up selling it to a church.
There was a front porch that wrapped around, stain glass windows, 14-15 ft ceilings. Pretty damn awesome growing up. After she died, it stayed abandoned for a few years and my great uncle gave my dad a good deal on it. We lived there for a few years but parents decided to move after living there 4-5 years. Where it was located, it had become a bad part of town and there was no yard. It's by no means like the ones in South Louisiana but was considered a plantation.
On the property there was the "maid's quarters" (which is now a regular house), a stable that could hold 6-7 horses (now remodeled into a salon), and the "shack" (currently my great uncles house) where the men lived. All the old living quarters took up about half of a city block. Now, it's basically in the center of town right off Main St.
I'll try and find some pictures
eta:
Yellow Box: Main House. House faced the bottom right corner.
Red Box: The stable, maids quarters, and the mens house.
The plot to the left used to be a pasture but they ended up selling it to a church.
This post was edited on 6/14/14 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 6/14/14 at 9:57 pm to goldenbadger08
There were well known moral questions about slavery long before the Civil war, but I am not judging yesterdays behavior by today's standards, I am judging how we view that behavior today. I reject it, I reject what they created and the 'honor' bestowed on their memory. I will never wave a Confederate flag.
Posted on 6/14/14 at 10:04 pm to andouille
Sure thing. I don't agree with some of the things you said, but I wasn't questioning the morality, just the comparison to genocide, it was ridiculous.
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