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re: I Lost an Old Friend This Afternoon

Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:14 pm to
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55380 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:14 pm to
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With an acetylene torch, pry bar, and six men with scoop shovels I could have emptied that tank in thirty minutes.

An acetylene torch on a grain tank?
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For a dust explosion to occur in a grain elevator or any type of mill there must be grain dust, oxygen, an ignition source and a confined space.

Looks like you would be supplying the missing ingredient - an ignition source

Maybe there is something I’m missing, but if I was a responder I damn sure would not start on it with a torch.
Posted by Spankum
The Sip
Member since Jan 2007
62160 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:26 pm to
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t I'm not sure this is the route you want to take on a grain silo


Right….there is often an explosive atmosphere in there…
Posted by Missouri Waltz
Adrift off the Spanish Main
Member since Feb 2016
1468 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:29 pm to
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sorry for your loss but I'm not sure this is the route you want to take on a grain silo

You cut from the outside below the grain level, not the inside above the grain level. Dust explodes, soybeans do not.
This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 9:32 pm
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40226 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 10:08 pm to
Can I ask what type of grain? We mostly have rice in this area and when I’ve asked about the possibility of this, I’ve been told that it wouldn’t happen with rice due to the way it stacks/packs??

Prayers for the friends and family of your friend. May he rest in peace.

Edit: I’m sorry — I now see soybeans. Beans here are typically put straight into trucks to haul to the ports/wherever from the combine.
This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 10:11 pm
Posted by Missouri Waltz
Adrift off the Spanish Main
Member since Feb 2016
1468 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 10:17 pm to
I don't know anything about rice. Some people grow it around here but I never have.

Most farmers around here store it and other grains. I know it can and does happen but I have never heard of any grain bin explosion in my area.
Posted by Tiger in the Sticks
Back in the Boot
Member since Jan 2007
1836 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 10:31 pm to
I’m so sorry, that must have been horrific to watch them try to rescue him.
Posted by windmill
Prairieville, La
Member since Dec 2005
7803 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 11:58 pm to
I'm so sorry for your loss.Very sorry.
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Az via La
Member since Feb 2006
13229 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 2:23 am to
I used to work in the grain business
I think the responders were on the outside using the cutting torch.
Yes a grain explosion is deadly, key factor is confined space.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55380 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 8:41 am to
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I think the responders were on the outside using the cutting torch.
Yes a grain explosion is deadly, key factor is confined space.

Probably still a Class II Div 2 area. There might be mitigating factors that make it okay, but if I’m a responder, trying to recover a body that is 99% likely to be dead already, I’m not firing up a torch.
Posted by stuckintexas
Austin & DFW
Member since Sep 2009
3161 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 12:59 pm to
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I ran a call similar to this this past weekend

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Silo rescues are some of the hardest rescues to work

Emotions run high during any incident, but especially on the occasion when bystanders perceive things as incompetency when in reality there is probably little that we can do. I'm not sure people realize it's just as difficult for us to make a command decision to hold off as it is for them while they're wondering, "why aren't they doing anything?" We risk a lot to save a lot, but there has to be reason to believe a situation is tenable for the patient/victim to put more people in jeopardy of not going home that day.

It sucks, but I hate hearing agencies get thrown under the bus based on emotion.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
17108 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 3:10 pm to
Prayers for your friends family.

The only thing I thing would be worst than suffocating in an elevator would be a PTO ensnarement. I have a friend whose long sleeve shirt got caught in one. Luckily it tore it off before it killed him. Still broke his arm in about 8-9 places and tore the shoulder socket up really bad.

But he survived.
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Az via La
Member since Feb 2006
13229 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 10:42 pm to
Agreed
It’s a tough situation especially on those on site or farmer grain bins.
When I worked for Cargill we unfortunately heard of stories of poor producers having unfortunate situations
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