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I have a question about FEMA and flood zones

Posted on 2/7/18 at 9:25 am
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34506 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 9:25 am
Trying to purchase a house that previously was in flood zone A (flood insurance is $2300/year)... parish has rezoned everything, and now the house is in flood zone X (flood insurance is $450/year)

However, FEMA doesn’t ‘recognize’ the change yet and I can’t get any answers from them or my parish officials on when they will acknowledge the change.. does anyone here have any clue about this? Anyone else having the same problem?

I’ve been back and forth with them for weeks now, with little to no information shared, and it’s beyond frustrating



This post was edited on 2/7/18 at 9:26 am
Posted by madamsquirrel
The Snarlington Estate
Member since Jul 2009
48241 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 9:27 am to
Bought a house 3 years ago that was previously flood zone x. rezoned ae. They still have not recognized the change so I still pay lower price
Posted by Drop4Loss
Birds Eye Of Deaf Valley
Member since Oct 2007
3849 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 9:27 am to
" parish has rezoned everything "

This has nothing to do with flood zones, they are determined and changed only by FEMA.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34506 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 9:28 am to
Are you in Louisiana? Which parish?
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34506 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 9:29 am to
quote:

This has nothing to do with flood zones, they are determined and changed only by FEMA.


I wouldn’t argue about it, but I don’t think this is 100% correct
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 9:30 am to
Don't buy a house in a flood zone unless you want to flood you dummy.
Posted by stillplayswithcars
Member since Jan 2018
183 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 9:30 am to
Get a local surveyor to do a LOMA for you. Costs about $400. He will be familiar with the process.
Posted by caliegeaux
Member since Aug 2004
10112 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 9:30 am to
give all that info to the mortgage broker and tell him you're not signing until they acknowledge the change......and lock your rate in and pray.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20862 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 9:30 am to
quote:

Trying to purchase a house that previously was in flood zone A (flood insurance is $2300/year)... parish has rezoned everything, and now the house is in flood zone X (flood insurance is $450/year)



Was this changed on a FIRM map?
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34506 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 9:31 am to
Yes it was

From what I understand, after they have submitted the letter of determination, there is another wiring period until it goes into effect


Let me see if I can find that link
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 9:31 am to
Get an elevation certificate and have your agent upload it into the NFIP database.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34506 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 9:33 am to
quote:

Get a local surveyor to do a LOMA for you. Costs about $400. He will be familiar with the process.


we applied for the eLOMA deal, but were rejected because I am one foot below sea level (I think that was the number on the elevation cert)
Posted by classicgold
bfe
Member since Feb 2017
4673 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 9:33 am to
They probably rezoned, but they have only rezoned in what is called Prefirm, or Preliminary Flood Insurance Rate Map. FEMA will have to confirm these flood risk areas with an Effective Firm. The Prefirm is almost always confirmed over time, but that time period isn't set in stone.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34506 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 9:34 am to
quote:

Don't buy a house in a flood zone unless you want to flood you dummy.


I’m good friends with the neighbor who has lived there for 30+ years.. they’ve never even came close to flooding... Katrina, Rita, Gustav, issac, crazy storm of 2012, etc never even came close to having water in their houses
This post was edited on 2/7/18 at 9:36 am
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34506 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 9:35 am to
quote:

They probably rezoned, but they have only rezoned in what is called Prefirm, or Preliminary Flood Insurance Rate Map. FEMA will have to confirm these flood risk areas with an Effective Firm. The Prefirm is almost always confirmed over time, but that time period isn't set in stone


Roger, thanks
Posted by deathvalleygrassmmmm
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2011
580 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 9:47 am to
as others have mentioned, the elevation certificate can help reduce if it shows you high enough. Otherwise it is a wait and see. Fema maps in my area were supposed to go into effect last September, but they keep getting pushed back.

Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20862 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 9:49 am to
If you can prove that to your lender they arent requirer to have proof of flood insurance, but it is their perogative to ask for it anyway at a much cheaper rate.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34506 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 9:52 am to
For this loan, for where I’m at (which hasn’t flooded in over 70 years ), I HAVE to have flood insurance
Posted by Brummy
Central, LA
Member since Oct 2009
4495 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 11:14 am to
quote:

I’m good friends with the neighbor who has lived there for 30+ years.. they’ve never even came close to flooding... Katrina, Rita, Gustav, issac, crazy storm of 2012, etc never even came close to having water in their houses

My neighbors said something similar in August 2016. A couple days later I was wading through two feet of water in my living room.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166074 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 11:21 am to
quote:

For this loan, for where I’m at (which hasn’t flooded in over 70 years ), I HAVE to have flood insurance



A) buy the flood insurance and close
B) when map change goes into effect, everything would be prorated and refunded accordingly.
C) you should keep the flood policy regardless of zone change
D) is the 1900 escrow addition making the note not affordable or something?
E) nobody really knows hardcore dates, everything is usually pretty fluid with flood program
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