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re: I am struggling with the moral implications of this St. George thing.

Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:22 am to
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:22 am to
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When the surroundings get a little sketchy, pack it up and move down the road a bit.



Tell us where you live.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
60704 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:23 am to
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and many urban legislators cried that you had to have an incorporated city first.


Sharon Weston Broome was one of them. Her words are not coming back to bite her on the rear.
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4748 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:25 am to
Didn't you know that criminals can't cross city lines?

I don't understand where the money for police, firefighters, new schools, new city buildings, etc. is going to come from day 1.

I think it's incredibly short-sighted.
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6331 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:27 am to
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I don't understand where the money for police, firefighters, new schools, new city buildings, etc. is going to come from day 1.



We already pay for sheriff and fire through property taxes. The schools will theoretically be an ISD which has a dedicated tax from those in it. City buildings won't be much of a factor for at least several years. I'm not against taxes if I can see the direct benefit to my surrounding area. I am against paying more taxes for things that never materialize.
Posted by JPinLondon
not in London (currently NW Ohio)
Member since Nov 2006
7855 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:28 am to
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Is segregation and isolation a good long term strategy for a community? I don't see where it leads anywhere good.

The current strategy has given BR a city-council that will not hire an airport director until a black applicant comes by. Qualified white applicants were told "no thanks"
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
10341 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:31 am to
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moral implications of this St. George thing.

WTF are you talking about ?
Damn idiot. Tell Bernie Sanders the Great City of St George says “hey”.
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4748 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:33 am to
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BR schools are crap..


Where are all these St. George schools that are so exceptional? Woodlawn has never been a great school during my lifetime, is it going to magically get better when more kids are sent there? It's the only public high school in the St. George area.
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6331 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:37 am to
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Where are all these St. George schools that are so exceptional? Woodlawn has never been a great school during my lifetime, is it going to magically get better when more kids are sent there? It's the only public high school in the St. George area.


We'd have to build more. One high school for around 85,000 people isn't feasible. The elementary schools in the Woodlawn High area are some of the better ones in the parish. Middle schools aren't all that bad either but then the high school is sub par. It's because students get bused in from other areas. No reason for where that school is at that it should get the ratings it gets. It's pretty typical for most public high schools in Baton Rouge.
This post was edited on 6/19/19 at 11:39 am
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
66184 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:39 am to
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Where are all these St. George schools that are so exceptional? Woodlawn has never been a great school during my lifetime, is it going to magically get better when more kids are sent there? It's the only public high school in the St. George area.



Do kids from across BR get bused there currently?

If it became a neighborhood school that was attended by people that lived in the area it would likely get better.

If BR had neighborhood schools it could help contain the shite show to some schools rather than all. No different than suburbs of Houston which has some crap schools but also plenty of fantastic ones
This post was edited on 6/19/19 at 11:47 am
Posted by slaphappy
Kansas City
Member since Nov 2005
2360 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:40 am to
This would not be an issue if EBR would have let St. George have it’s own school district, like Central. They force the St. George proponents’ hand.
Posted by NashBamaFan
Nashville
Member since Mar 2011
3009 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 11:49 am to
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Are you willing to move yourself and your family to the middle of north Baton Rouge, and donate large amounts of cash to the city government there in an attempt to keep things afloat? Probably not, so where's the line you've drawn? At your family's safety? At double digit contributions of your earnings? It's easy to judge others when you have no skin in the game. If I want to soothe my conscience by helping the less fortunate, I sure as hell won't give money to any government to do that for me.


This post is the only post necessary for the OP topic. Like myself , this dude said himself “I don’t have a vote”. Then Why in the frick are you concerned with the shite. Your life must really suck. Life tip for ya: if it doesn’t affect you or your family/friends(to an extent) then pay it no mind.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
48706 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 12:12 pm to
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I don't understand where the money for police, firefighters, new schools, new city buildings, etc. is going to come from day 1.



Sales tax obtained in St. George limits go to St. George from day one of incorporation.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
48706 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 12:15 pm to
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Woodlawn has never been a great school during my lifetime, is it going to magically get better when more kids are sent there?


Both Central and Zachary saw drastic improvements to their school systems when they moved from under the control of the East Baton Rouge School System.
Posted by Loungefly85
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2016
7930 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 12:15 pm to
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To be fair, the mayor, north br, and Gary chambers want to be segregated. Buy black, only support black businesses, and put all the money in north br. They want BR Wakanda and that means their area all to themselves


I say give them what they want. Let NBR form their own city and let those racist fools run it.

Of course they won’t though. They’ll never say it but they know they can’t do or fund shite without the $ from the people they hate.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
48706 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 12:20 pm to
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I am struggling with the moral implications of this St. George thing


Are you struggling with the morality of the City of Baton Rouge taking ~$50 million per year from the residents of the unincorporated area to provide services to only those in the Baton Rouge City limits?

Because that is literally theft.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49088 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 12:21 pm to
I just moved to the Pacific northwest.


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But I spend a lot of time thinking about what the world will look like 10, 20, 50 years down the line. 



Louisiana will be farther backwards, making every attempt to shoot themselves in the foot. Colorado just passed a billion in cannabis and Louisiana wants private prisons lol

And frick the culcha
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9735 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 12:23 pm to
The KC metro is a great example for you. Nobody calls Leawood, Lenexa or Overland Park racist because they want to be separate entities from KCMO and Wyandotte County. Those places are train wrecks of their own makings. It sounds like SG has little in common with the rest of BR. Just because white people want to do something as a majority unit doesn't immediately make it "racist". Nobody is stopping a black family from moving to SG, as a far as I know.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
129131 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 12:25 pm to
All of those towns are in a different state.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
129131 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 12:30 pm to
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Do kids from across BR get bused there currently?

A small percentage at best.
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If BR had neighborhood schools it could help contain the shite show to some schools rather than all.

Wouldn’t it make sense then to not turn anymore traditional public schools into charter schools? Because now that is what would cause someone to have to be bussed across town to another school.
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9735 posts
Posted on 6/19/19 at 12:30 pm to
Wyandotte is in Kansas and KCMO floats the idea of joint ventures with JOCO on a regular basis. It always gets shot down with haste. Nobody in JOCO wants anything to do with Jackson County, MO.
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