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re: Hurricane Katrina, re: the doomsday warning

Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:32 am to
Posted by Shorts Guy
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Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:32 am to
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Ask people in Plaquemines and Lower St Bernard if it "wasn't bad". Clown take.


Clown take, indeed. Dead livestock hanging in trees, water towers collapsed, it was unimaginable. And that was with a weakened storm. In the city, the image of the Hyatt with all the windows blown out. On the MS coast, 95% of those well-built old homes reduced to sticks. I’d never seen a “naked” live oak tree before going to the MS coast after the storm.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
50601 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:35 am to
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Well.. Katrina weakened and the wind prediction didn't come true. He didn't mention storm surge and flooding in the warning. Which is a huge swing and a miss.

The warning that the “doomsday” message was a part of was actually an Inland Hurricane Warning, so it wasn’t designed to cover storm surge impacts.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
19961 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:44 am to
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NWS office responsible for the coastal counties of Mississippi. With regards to those counties, I would say the warning was pretty on point. The warning was also issued when Katrina was at Cat. 5 strength with 175 mph sustained winds.

If anything it didn't emphasize the severity or potential impact of the storm surge for the MS gulf coast enough.

If you were in a waterfront home in Pass Christian on US90 for example you were basically dead regardless of how well built the home was.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
50601 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:45 am to
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If anything it didn't emphasize the severity or potential impact of the storm surge for the MS gulf coast enough.

See my post above. It was an inland hurricane warning, so it wouldn’t have covered storm surge.
Posted by DreadDub
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Member since May 2006
751 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:47 am to
We had just evacuated Slidell in the middle of Saturday night/Sunday morning. Made it to my family's home in Sulphur after fighting contraflow for a few hours.

I read my 8 month pregnant wife that Doomsday Warning after she woke up from a nap. Big mistake. Straight into emotional distress.

We actually made out ok in Slidell - few trees took out our fences and shed. Everything missed the house and we didn't even lose a shingle.

Drove in the day after with a neighbor and couldn't believe it. Took a picture of the baby's nursery we had just finished the week before to show the wife everything was ok. No power for 3 weeks but by the time the kid came we were back in the house.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
31863 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:47 am to
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when the actual storm wasn't bad at all in LA


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It was the floods after the levees failed that caused the most damage.


People say the dumbest things.... A flood caused by a massive storm surge that hit Louisiana...

Here's some pics of wind damage... Couldn't find any with billboards bent over 90 degrees and some just completely blown over...









This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 11:49 am
Posted by profdillweed
Gulf of America
Member since Apr 2025
2190 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:00 pm to
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People say the dumbest things.... A flood caused by a massive storm surge that hit Louisiana...

Here's some pics of wind damage... Couldn't find any with billboards bent over 90 degrees and some just completely blown over...


These pics had nothing to do with the levees breaking























This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 12:02 pm
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
155309 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:00 pm to
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People say the dumbest things.... A flood caused by a massive storm surge that hit Louisiana...

Here's some pics of wind damage... Couldn't find any with billboards bent over 90 degrees and some just completely blown over...

To you (and my other responses), I didn't say it caused no damage. Just that the storm itself wasn't near as bad as the damage that came later on.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175409 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:02 pm to
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These pics had nothing to do with the levees breaking


That looks like run of the mill hurricane damage.
Posted by profdillweed
Gulf of America
Member since Apr 2025
2190 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

That looks like run of the mill hurricane damage.



Besides the levees failing Katrina was worst than Ida
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
4434 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:29 pm to
I saw some bare oaks after Katrina. But the only time I ever saw a twisted tree was after Laura.



Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66909 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:30 pm to
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It was an inland hurricane warning, so it wouldn’t have covered storm surge.

This was issued by a New Orleans based NWS person, not a National hurricane center person.
I assume a NHC posting would be more related to the coastal issues such as storm surge?
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
31863 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:31 pm to
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Besides the levees failing Katrina was worst than Ida


Just look at the Hyatt and The Galleria, zero windows were blown out for IDA...

I was here for both, I can attest, Katrina was by far much worse than Ida...
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 12:32 pm
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
31863 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:33 pm to
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I saw some bare oaks after Katrina. But the only time I ever saw a twisted tree was after Laura.


That's tornado damage, we had a shite ton of trees that looked like that by our camp on the West pearl after Katrina.
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 1:11 pm
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51670 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:38 pm to
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What's dumb is weather people will use revisionist history to prove that this was right, when the actual storm wasn't bad at all in LA (different story for the Gulf coast obviously).

I don’t know what you consider Metairie - Gulf Coast or LA - but the wind damage in my neighborhood was extreme. It certainly wasn’t nearly as bad as that warning predicted, but the street was blocked end-to-end with 30 feet high downed trees.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51670 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:41 pm to
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can we move on at some point?
Don't have to forget it, but can we quit talking about it?

Yeah for sure. You just see the thread title and decide not to click on it.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
50601 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 1:28 pm to
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This was issued by a New Orleans based NWS person, not a National hurricane center person. I assume a NHC posting would be more related to the coastal issues such as storm surge?

Correct. Tropical storm/hurricane watches and warnings are issued by the National Hurricane Center rather than the local NWS offices. NHC also issues Storm Surge watches and warnings that are separate from the hurricane watches/warnings, but that product didn’t debut until 2017.
Posted by profdillweed
Gulf of America
Member since Apr 2025
2190 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 1:35 pm to
Bone Chilling

Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51670 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 1:58 pm to
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The MRGO wasn't completed till 1968 which was the main reason why New Orleans had major flooding 40 years later.

I don’t know about that. The MRGO contributed, but that surge was coming over the marsh one way or the other. The sea level rose about 15 feet at the longitude of Eastern New Orleans.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
78758 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 2:05 pm to
I was at Home Depot when it came out.
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