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re: Hurricane Ida - were the wind reports across SELA greatly under measured?

Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:30 pm to
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:30 pm to
Mine is about 23 feet above ground level. I can't get it any higher and maintain safety (without risk of it falling over) since it's on a pole. It's also surrounded by trees on 3 sides, with the trees on the northern side where the wind during Ida was coming from about 70 feet away. It's not 100% accurate because there's lots of obstructions, which just adds confidence to my theory of over 100mph gusts since a 78 mph gust broke it (likely a branch or other debris).
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
11557 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:31 pm to
I'm telling you we had many many gust over 100.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50701 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:31 pm to
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Negative. I believe worst he saw in the area was Katrina; but other circumstances probably contributed to that.

He is just down the creek from you.


Man, I'm really confused now. Katrina wasn't shite around here. Maybe 50-60mph gusts here and there but mostly under 50 for Katrina. How does he feel Gustav wasn't as bad as Katrina and that Gustav was worse than Ida? That makes no sense to me.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78363 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:34 pm to
Katrina more destruction than both, Gustav more wind than both.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50701 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:39 pm to
You have to be fricking with me now . Unless your dad was in New Orleans or around the Mississippi coast for Katrina, one of you is full of shite. Gustav was during the day so maybe your dad feels like that was stronger winds because he could see it more but Ida 100% was more powerful and destructive to this area than both. Gustav would be a close 2nd, though.
Posted by lsufb1912
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2021
5965 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:50 pm to
quote:

gusts are higher than sustained winds, I know that
Do you though?

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my estimate of 100-110mph gusts
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the hurricane had sustained winds of around ~105mph when it was closest to me, in my opinion
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100-110mph gusts here

Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50701 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 4:52 pm to
Are you really not able to read what you're quoting and not understand what I'm saying?
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:01 pm to
yes
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177281 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 5:37 pm to
Gustav was worse in SE EBR from every measurable metric. Power outages, tree damage, wind speed. Once winds gets strong people greatly over-estimate them.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50701 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 6:01 pm to
Maybe my location was just very different from Baton Rouge then. I know the gradient was very sharp but I assumed SE BR was close to on par with what I got here but maybe not. I know for a fact that Ida was worse where I am than Gustav was - and I was in Donaldsonville for Gustav.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 6:21 pm to
I work in the industry and I move my guys in basically while it's still blowing.
I haven't done a major storm in 20 years that wasn't under reported.
Especially Michael. I had a retired weatherman with $30k of equipment on his property and he personally showed me the sustained wind were WAY over the reported speed and well into CAT 5 rating....yet I was reported as a 4.
He seemed to think there is some type of raise gvmnt liability % if storms hit a a 5.(basically saying a larger% of $ is legally required of the gvmnt)

Posted by LSUguy2023
St. George
Member since Oct 2021
3086 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 6:49 pm to
I was in the manchac lake apartments that Sunday night. It’s the big complex right by bayou manchac on airline highway by the parish line with EBR. We were on the 3rd floor and got 5 or 6 readings of gusts over 100mph. From what I remember, the sustained winds stayed in the 80s where we were.
Posted by iron banks
Destrehan
Member since Jul 2014
4258 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:09 pm to
My house in Destrehan took an arse whipping. That bitch was not playing around. Cat 5 IMO no matter what the NWS says.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75093 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 7:23 pm to
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I'm curious myself. The max wind gust for my area was listed as 90 or so mph with a sustained windspeed of 75 or so. We were in the eyewall for a good 3+ hours and the damage done to the trees all around was staggering. Most of them were all defoliated and some debarked badly. I don't buy those wind speeds.


When you sit for hours in an eye wall that looks like this you're not going to have typical-looking hurricane damage.
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
9225 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 8:01 pm to
What a bitch
Posted by Klingler7
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
12620 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 8:16 pm to
At MSY, ASOS had an interruption in service but measured a gust around 90 mph. The thinking is that winds maxed out at the airport between 105-110 mph.
Posted by lsufb1912
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2021
5965 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 8:50 pm to
quote:

Are you really not able to read what you're quoting and not understand what I'm saying?

Yes, you said gusts are higher than sustained winds.
Then you also said there were sustained winds of 105 & gusts of 100-110.
Sounds to me like you are saying gusts are the same thing as sustained winds.

This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 8:51 pm
Posted by Klingler7
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
12620 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 8:54 pm to
Sustained winds: average winds over a 2 minute interval.

Gusts: are the highest winds that have a peak and lull of 10 knots or greater within the past 10 minutes.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 8:55 pm
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50701 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 8:59 pm to
No no, I also said that the sustained winds were 105 when it was a few miles to my east, putting me on the west side where the winds are usually weaker. Given how close it was when it was sustained at 105 and my experience at 78mph an hour before, I would estimate the strongest gusts I received were around 100-110. The sustained winds near me were probably around 80 with gusts to 100-110 is what I’m saying.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 9:01 pm
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
40860 posts
Posted on 5/26/22 at 9:02 pm to
What parish did your trampolines land in? That's my measuring stick.
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