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re: Hungary is currently experiencing a historic boom in marriages, thanks to govt scheme

Posted on 12/1/19 at 5:54 pm to
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 12/1/19 at 5:54 pm to
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A policy of government intervention.

Another small gov conservative rears his head. Lol



Exactly.


Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 12/1/19 at 5:57 pm to
So we are gonna deport welfare mommas to Hungary or what?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 12/1/19 at 5:59 pm to
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We don’t do it directly, but our system is designed in a way that shields poor mothers from the financial repercussions of having a child she can not afford



If we have such a system, then why has TFR dropped for all ethnic groups? White people (as well as Asians) have hovered around 1.7-1.8 for nearly 4 decades, while the US generally had replacement rates overall, which meant that the country was heavily reliant on non-white ethnic classifications in order to remain above replacement.

One would think that protection from financial repercussions would keep rates above replacement, but the issue is obviously more complicated, as none of the programs started in countries that have been below replacement to incentivize childbirth (such as free childcare) for a long time have produced an appreciable increase in the TFR of a country.

The Demographic Transition Model is rather resilient, in that no one has increased sub-replacement TFR to replacement TFR, save for one notable example in Romania. The market fundamentalist approach of incentives hasn't worked all that well in raising TFR, and we have now upwards of 30 years of data to attest to that.

Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 12/1/19 at 6:06 pm to
We have this already with child tax credits
Posted by GeorgePaton
God's Country
Member since May 2017
5651 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 6:17 pm to
.....good for Hungary. So while socialist America is aborting babies (and future workers) and killing off the elderly and physically handicapped Hungary will have grown a population fully able to support economic expansion. What a great idea......grow your own workers. Instead of importing radical muslim workers who slice-and-dice innocent people on the streets, roads, bridges.

This post was edited on 12/1/19 at 6:20 pm
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 6:27 pm to
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killing off the elderly and physically handicapped
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socialist America


You seem sane.

Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
6724 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 6:36 pm to
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If you are concerned that key desirable groups are not having children in America, this could be a policy to support


Are you fricking retarded?

Do you know what kind of people would think it is worth having three kids for $33,000?
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
61193 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 6:43 pm to
Three kids right now gets you a $6500 tax “refund” annually if you only make $14,000 - $15,000.

Pull that off for 18 years and you’ve been given $117,000.
This post was edited on 12/1/19 at 6:44 pm
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 6:48 pm to
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you know what kind of people would think it is worth having three kids for $33,000?



People like me.

Cept I dont stop at one marriage and 3 kids. :p
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
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Posted on 12/1/19 at 7:00 pm to
OT would only support this if it was for middle to upper class whites only.
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 7:03 pm to
And there you have it. I admire your unfettered racism.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61440 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 7:40 pm to
Get to havin that sex
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134638 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 7:46 pm to
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A big new scheme this year offers couples that marry before the bride's 41st birthday subsidized loans of up to 10 million forints ($33,000). A third of the loan will be forgiven if they go on to have two children, and the entire debt wiped out if they have three.



In America this would barely even pay for the wedding most spoiled women want
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299637 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 7:51 pm to
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The world does not need more people.


It does.

The growth rate is declining, and in 50 years the population will decline. We will start dying off
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 12/1/19 at 7:54 pm to
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OT would only support this if it was for middle to upper class whites only.


Relevant people would probably support it if it was for employed college educated couples, regardless of race/religion/beliefs, etc.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 8:59 pm to
do those people understand you can't raise 3 kids on 33K?
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