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re: How to properly scare off a charging brown bear.

Posted on 3/8/24 at 10:15 am to
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/8/24 at 10:15 am to
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Where did this occur? Was it in an area where hunting bears is allowed?
Most likely Alaska and don’t know if hunting is allowed in that particular area.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260823 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 10:21 am to
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Where did this occur? Was it in an area where hunting bears is allowed?


Probably SW Alaska. Not uncommon for fishermen or bear watchers to get bluff charged.

Theres a place about 10 miles from here you can do that, if you want the experience.

Pack Creek shenanigans
Posted by RichardParker
AK
Member since Jul 2016
133 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 11:07 am to
Good stuff lol. Interestingly, I am friends with the guy who filmed this’ daughter. He has been running bear viewing tours in Katmai, Lake Clark National Park for over 30 years. His operation is based out of Homer, AK. Nice fella. She told me this happens to him about once a season and he learned a long time ago to react that way. None of these guides bring guns, only bear spray and there’s almost never any reason to use it. All the flight viewing companies specifically forbid the bringing of personal firearms actually. Which I can understand. But it’s true, these bears are all fat and happy. Been crushing the salmon run at Brooks Falls all summer. Get over there in moose season in late September and they get a lil more ornery. Good stuff.
Posted by JodyPlauche
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
8830 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 11:12 am to
That's fake...the two guys were wearing different clothing.
Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
35543 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 11:16 am to
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The urge to turn and run would be damn hard to overcome.
I was up before sunrise camping out in the Serengeti. It was my and my tent-mate’s time for cooking duty, so we got up early and were walking outside of the tents. We heard a lion growling (presumably at us) and rustling brush/crunching leaves, and it took every bit of my energy to remain calm and not start running. We walked calmly to the enclosed cooking area without turning around to see it, and then once we knew we were safe, the adrenaline dumped. Definitely my most memorable “oh shite” experience. In hindsight, it was probably more of a warning grumble like a “stay away from my babies” thing. If she wanted to attack us, we wouldn’t have heard her. but I say “she” because on safari that morning we rolled past a bunch of her cubs chowing down on a fresh wildebeest, and she was visibly nonplussed to see our land cruiser. She made the exact same noise we had heard as we rolled by. We looked at each other and were like
This post was edited on 3/8/24 at 11:20 am
Posted by AlumneyeJ93
Member since Apr 2022
639 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 11:20 am to
Cameraman never dies.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260823 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 11:26 am to
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None of these guides bring guns, only bear spray and there’s almost never any reason to use it.


Bears that are fishing are very ornery but rarely deadly. With larger game that changes

They'll attack you over a deer or moose carcass, but the fish are so plentiful that they are less in survival mode.
Posted by RichardParker
AK
Member since Jul 2016
133 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 11:33 am to
Definitely been scared shitless on Kodiak and Afognak cleaning up deer carcasses as fast as possible. Those bears hear rifle shots and run in that direction.
When we went bear viewing a couple summers ago, we didn’t see anything like this for sure, but the guide said about the same thing, they’ll get a charge like that or two every year. The brownies seemed much more concerned with each other and the fish than us, by a long shot.
Posted by jmh5724
Member since Jan 2012
2138 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 11:33 am to
Had a similar experience in Montana with a grizzly. It didn’t full out charge at us but it did head in our direction trying to figure out what we were. Finally it stopped about 25 yards away. We were yelling and waving our arms the entire time. Terrible experience, would not recommend
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260823 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 11:34 am to
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Definitely been scared shitless on Kodiak and Afognak cleaning up deer carcasses as fast as possible. Those bears hear rifle shots and run in that direction.


Same thing happens on the islands around here. (ABC islands)

Bears hear gunshots and are conditioned to locate the carcass. Its crazy how they adapted.


Its always at least a two man operation. One field dressing, the other watching.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20481 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 11:34 am to
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She told me this happens to him about once a season and he learned a long time ago to react that way. None of these guides bring guns


Yeah frick that. If a guide doesn't bring a gun it likely has as much to do with his clientele being very liberal and against it then anything else. You are right they aren't generally as bad around fish. But I've been with plenty of fishing guides that carry a sidearm.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260823 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 11:40 am to
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Yeah frick that. If a guide doesn't bring a gun it likely has as much to do with his clientele being very liberal and against it then anything else.


I was aware of one company that forbade hiking/photography guides from carrying firearms while leading hikes on Chichagof or Admiralty Islands.

That changed when one of their guides was attacked on Chichagof.

Theres a professor at the local college that leads wilderness excursions. He was attacked three years ago, and still leads these trips for his wilderness classes. I hope he learned a lesson.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76354 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 11:40 am to
Those dudes look fun to hang out with
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14218 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 11:54 am to
That works great….until it doesn’t.
Posted by RichardParker
AK
Member since Jul 2016
133 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 4:33 pm to
Or, conversely, they don’t want amateurs carrying loaded weapons on their very small airplanes. Shooting a grizzly is a big deal, and a tourist being scared and shooting one is not a good enough reason in the eyes of the ADF&G. I would imagine it has virtually nothing to do with politics, and waaaay more to do with liability.
That being said, when I went I was definitely missing/felt naked without the ole sidearm lol
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
9380 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 5:15 pm to
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Shooting a grizzly is a big deal,

Yeah because it’s most likely going to aggravate it unless you are a crack shot under intense pressure within seconds.

Pistol, Bear Spray or Both? Clay Newcomb learns bear defense. Presented by Taurus
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15158 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 5:26 pm to
The downvoters have to be some humorless twits to not find that funny.

Hat's off to the real portion of that video for the guy standing his ground and running that apex predator off.

I'd have been like the two guys in the white pants
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19303 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 6:06 pm to
Watched a lot of YouTube videos of bear attacks & one thing that jumped out was that most of the bears, after their initial "bite" attempt, go for the head. And few survive when the attack gets to that body part.
Posted by Chief Hinge
There and Here
Member since Sep 2018
2908 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 6:11 pm to
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I’d rather stay on the safe side and fire a couple of warning shots from my .686


Found the overcompensator
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260823 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 6:20 pm to
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Watched a lot of YouTube videos of bear attacks & one thing that jumped out was that most of the bears, after their initial "bite" attempt, go for the head. And few survive when the attack gets to that body part.


These two guys got jumped near Hoonah, Ak a few years ago.
LINK

Nice details about the attack, how quickly it happens, what it feels like. These guys are uber experienced. They hunt the old fashioned way.

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