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re: How the UK would rank as a 51st state

Posted on 4/24/26 at 4:33 pm to
Posted by Buryl
Member since Sep 2016
1057 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 4:33 pm to
Uk would be 2nd in life expectancy,behind Hawaii, not 1st. Controlling for race, may not even be in top 10.

Source: CDC

Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
36570 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 4:35 pm to
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Man, for being such an expert, you don't appear to be able to connect the dots. Figures.


They’re no longer considered a superpower but all of the prominent cities are better?

The service-based economy has not helped their situation and they’re stuck due to their climate pledges.
This post was edited on 4/24/26 at 4:37 pm
Posted by rltiger
Metairie
Member since Oct 2004
2561 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 4:35 pm to
UK is over 80% white British and declining

The last time the US was 80% white European was in 1980.

From 1920-1950 the US was 90% white European.

Here are the states with the most percentage of white Europeans today..

Maine & West Virginia: 90–93%
Vermont & New Hampshire: 87–89%
Montana & Wyoming: 84–85%
Iowa & North Dakota: 82–89%
Kentucky & Idaho: 81–82%
South Dakota: 80%


UK is where the US was in the 70’s with less rights and freedoms. They are going down an unrecoverable road.






Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39825 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 5:02 pm to
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They’re no longer considered a superpower but all of the prominent cities are better?



They haven't been a superpower for a long time man. Since at least the Suez crisis. They had issues with urban decay and privatization of certain national industries, and that privatization scheme helped revitalize city centers that were hollowed out. Some of that revitalization was due to reforms made at the council estate level, others were at the national level. Though I know you aren't actually interested in any of the details, the Blair government published a white paper which outlined their approach to revitalizing British urban centers in like 1999. Since it was adopted, those same city centers saw a reversal of population decline, repurposing of old industrial sites and new public-private partnerships to redevelop property.

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The service-based economy


You donut, they became a world power precisely because they are a financial center. The UK does not have a massive amount natural resources. What they did have was early adoption of a political economy that allowed labor and capital to move with one another, which led to excess industrial capacity combined with the need for raw resources which Europe itself could not provide. While they did gut domestic production of various industries, like lots of nations, the fact they are a financial capital is something that draws money and investment to the country, not away.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37419 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 5:20 pm to
The UK definitely. has it figured out and is on a better trajectory. Sarcasm: [ON] OFF

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Economic Comparison: US vs. UK (2026 Status)
Growth (GDP)


US: Forecast to grow by 2.3% in 2026, maintaining the strongest performance among G7 nations.

UK: Forecast slashed to 0.8%, the largest downward revision of any advanced economy.

The Difference: The UK is far more vulnerable to energy price spikes because 62% of household energy comes from gas, compared to the more diversified US energy profile.

Inflation (CPI)

US: Inflation stands at 3.26% as of March 2026, with core prices showing signs of stabilizing.

UK: Inflation rose to 3.3% in March and is expected to peak between 3.5% and 4% later this year due to soaring fuel imports.

The Trend: While the rates are currently similar, analysts believe the US "inflation issue" is closer to being resolved than the UK's.

Labor Market

US: The unemployment rate is 4.4% as of February 2026, slightly up from previous months but still considered relatively low.

UK: The unemployment rate is 4.9%, but it is artificially low because a record 9.1 million people have left the workforce entirely (economic inactivity).

Outlook: UK unemployment is warned to potentially reach 5.6% by the end of the year, its highest since 2015.

Monetary Policy (Interest Rates)

US Federal Reserve: Expected to cut rates to roughly 3%–3.25% by mid-2026 to support growth.

Bank of England: Also predicted to cut to 3%, but faces a tougher "stagflation" challenge—trying to boost a weak economy while battling higher inflation than the US.



I'm sure more of the same policies and politicians pushing them in the UK is what will turn it all around, and is definitely not what's causing this.

Sarcasm: STILL ON

ETA: the fact that able bodied labor force dropouts aren't included in unemployment numbers is wild to me.
This post was edited on 4/24/26 at 5:25 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39825 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 5:31 pm to
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I'm sure more of the same policies and politicians pushing them in the UK is what will turn it all around, and is definitely not what's causing this. Sarcasm: STILL ON



Causing what exactly? The link you posted seems to make the case it is linked to US actions in Iran and not something intrinsic to the British economy. I'm confused as to what you think your link actually means.

And yes, austerity does not work. You yourself said the UK economy was stagnant for the 2010's, or rather, that is what the data shows.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
37419 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 5:33 pm to
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The link you posted seems to make the case it is linked to US actions in Iran and not something intrinsic to the British economy. I'm confused as to what you think your link actually means.


I didn't post a link.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39825 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 5:39 pm to
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I didn't post a link.



Sure, but the question still stands. None of those numbers seem all that alarming to me, nor does it seem to follow from anything you've written.
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
9900 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 5:56 pm to
How would that look if US taxpayers weren’t paying for the UK’s national defense?
Posted by VooDude
Member since Aug 2017
3326 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 6:22 pm to
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This would bother you?
Yes! And they all get fully paid pensions under His Majesty’s pension fund too!
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24394 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 8:18 pm to
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For all of you scholars out there, the UK consists of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. Most (not all) of the schlock videos that you see of Muslims doing bad things are from the boroughs surrounding or close to London. Most Muslims in the UK live in urban areas, heavily concentrated in London. They ain't many Ali Akbars running around the Scottish Highlands.

Oh really?
quote:

Drive to make British countryside more welcoming to minorities
National landscapes are developing inclusivity strategies after suggestions they are perceived as being for ‘white and middle-class people’

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The British countryside will become more welcoming to ethnic minorities under strategies being developed over the next five years.

LINK
This post was edited on 4/24/26 at 8:19 pm
Posted by VooDude
Member since Aug 2017
3326 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 10:28 pm to
I can be a bit of a troll on TD (love you guys), but as a US, UK, EU citizen these days (thanks Northern Ireland citizenship) there’s a reason the UK can afford a better life.

It’s because we fund it.

In the form of national security. Someone google the amount of US military bases nationwide, let alone in Europe.


And now google UK defense spending declines over the last few decades. Prepare your a-hole.
This post was edited on 4/24/26 at 10:35 pm
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85143 posts
Posted on 4/25/26 at 1:25 am to
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Louisiana literally looks worse than parts of Africa now.


Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28066 posts
Posted on 4/25/26 at 6:29 am to
Do y’all know why this chart was made? Because it’s been a big story in the news over there recently when it was discovered that the UK would be the poorest U.S. state. They can’t believe that the UK is poorer than Alabama, and they’re feeling pretty shitty about it over there.

So someone, I assume from the UK, made this chart to make their British compatriots feel better.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
32380 posts
Posted on 4/25/26 at 8:02 am to
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