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re: how should a company compensate an hourly employee for out of state training
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:06 am to roguetiger15
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:06 am to roguetiger15
I'm sure that when the company's owner travels for the company, this guy will not mind pitching in a few extra bucks from his paycheck to compensate the owner. Fair is fair.
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Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:07 am to ManBearTiger
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I've been in this exact situation this year and now that I bring more to the table my company has invested in me with higher pay to match my additional skills. Not sure what's so funny guy.
Training is part of your job. At least it should be if you'd like to do your job well. Why should you get paid time and a half to get training? Or be paid more at the conclusion of your training? Do you also think you should have to pay the cost of the training yourself? Because otherwise you're being ridiculous.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:33 am to LNCHBOX
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Training is part of your job. At least it should be if you'd like to do your job well. Why should you get paid time and a half to get training? Or be paid more at the conclusion of your training? Do you also think you should have to pay the cost of the training yourself? Because otherwise you're being ridiculous.
Are you having trouble comrehending that training of this nature inherently adds value to your resume, value which can be used to find a better position at a competitior of your current employer? We're not talking about training specific to his company or specific to their operating procedures. Sure, the current employer is well within their rights to stiff the guy on his training, just don't be surprised when he turns around and uses those newfound skills to bail at the first opportunity.
You think that concept is ridiculous? How long did it take for you to get your Humanities degree?
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:38 am to roguetiger15
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I think he's just upset that he will be stuck in a hotel for a week and not being able to go home everyday like he usually does and he'll be getting paid the same.
How old is this person?
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:40 am to roguetiger15
If he took the job with the premise that he'd never have to travel, then I could see him feeling a little shafted.
Most of us do travel for things like this often with no additional compensation but most of us knew it was a potential part of the job.
Most of us do travel for things like this often with no additional compensation but most of us knew it was a potential part of the job.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:41 am to Croacka
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How old is this person?
late 50's
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:43 am to Croacka
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If he took the job with the premise that he'd never have to travel, then I could see him feeling a little shafted.
Most of us do travel for things like this often with no additional compensation but most of us knew it was a potential part of the job.
if that was the case and it was often, i could buy it.
if its the seeming one off, super rare, occurrence.... the shafting is pretty insignificant
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:51 am to LNCHBOX
quote:paid for travel time, work time, and reimbursed for lodging, car rental, gas, food(sometimes not). That is usually how it is.
And? Tell him to go enjoy whatever city his company is paying him to be in and look at it as a mostly free vacation.
i use all my company trips as free mini vacations. im there monday to friday, i schedule to fly back on the sunday so i have the whole saturday to explore and have fun.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:54 am to ManBearTiger
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Are you having trouble comrehending that training of this nature inherently adds value to your resume,
Do you know the nature of this "training?" Regardless, all the work you do should add value to your resume.
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value which can be used to find a better position at a competitior of your current employer?
Everything you do at your job can better prepare you to work for your competition. So you're not making much of a point here.
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You think that concept is ridiculous? How long did it take for you to get your Humanities degree?
Swing and a miss there. But about what I'd expect out of someone that thinks they deserve extra compensation for no particularly good reason.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:56 am to roguetiger15
normal wages plus per diem, company should pick up the airfare, hotel, he should expense the rest
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:58 am to chinhoyang
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This does not constitute legal advice. Consult a lawyer.
Thanks for citing some actual law, so many opinions in this thread from people that don't even understand the distinction between exempt and non-exempt employees, hopefully they are not in managerial positions.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:04 am to roguetiger15
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yes he'll be working for 8 hours a day
HR worker here...if this is true then compensate him for 8 hours. Why would you pay him for hours not worked? He's getting trained for work, hes getting compensated for the trip, this is strictly business; does he expect it to be a vacation?
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:04 am to ManBearTiger
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Are you having trouble comrehending that training of this nature inherently adds value to your resume
right, and the company is paying for it
the company is literally paying him to make him more valuable, which he will probably be able to use to his advantage down the line by seeking a raise or a position elsewhere
he should be begging to go to this training that will make him a better and more valuable worker, not bitching about it
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:05 am to Ash Williams
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the company is literally paying him to make him more valuable
kind of a two way street there
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:07 am to 777Tiger
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HR worker here
HR is in the house, im out!
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:07 am to GRTiger
I feel for those people who have to get reimbursed for everything. I'd end up having to stay in shite hotels since I'm not an OT baller. I'd do get reimbursed for food, but at the per diem rate regardless of what I spend. Hotel just goes on the company card.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:07 am to LNCHBOX
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Swing and a miss there. But about what I'd expect out of someone that thinks they deserve extra compensation for no particularly good reason.
Dude, you just simply don't have an understanding of very simple things at play here.
If your employer wanted you to go get a MBA, which they pay for, you think you'll be fine continuing with your pre-MBA salary after completing the program? It's an extreme example, but you don't seem to be big on nuance.
You can say training and further education is part of any job all you want, but so are corresponding reevaluations of compensation depending on continued advancement of skills (after the initial learning curve has been completed of course).
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:09 am to Ash Williams
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the company is literally paying him to make him more valuable, which he will probably be able to use to his advantage down the line by seeking a raise or a position elsewhere
right, and I suggested as a way to pacify a future desire to leave being generous upfront with this particular venture.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:10 am to roguetiger15
He's getting paid his normal rate, in addition to being reimbursed for all travel, food, and lodging expenses, correct?
On one hand I can see his point. He's an hourly employee, not salary. If he was salaried, it'd be an entirely different scenario.
On one hand I can see his point. He's an hourly employee, not salary. If he was salaried, it'd be an entirely different scenario.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:10 am to ManBearTiger
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I suggested as a way to pacify a future desire to leave being generous upfront with this particular venture.
always seems to work out better for employers make it enticing to stay rather than try to prevent them from leaving
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