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re: How old do you believe the Earth is?
Posted on 2/10/22 at 6:53 am to Liberator
Posted on 2/10/22 at 6:53 am to Liberator
Before some of you discount this read of 'Kings Dethroned' by Gerrard Hickson, please reconsider.
You will have your mind blown. I guarantee it. You have nothing to lose.
"Truth" and "History" is NOT what we are told. I have a re-printed hard copy of this book. If REAL "space-science" matters to you, check it out.
LINK
You will have your mind blown. I guarantee it. You have nothing to lose.
"Truth" and "History" is NOT what we are told. I have a re-printed hard copy of this book. If REAL "space-science" matters to you, check it out.
LINK
Posted on 2/10/22 at 6:56 am to Liberator
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Either the Bible and Word of God is true; OR it isn't. The unbroken Genealogy record measured in time accurately from Adam though Christ; it pegs Creation and Man at @6,000 years old. This "Old Earth" stuff has been misdirection from anti-God contingent of Pagan-Occultists who've gained control of the world's systems.
Or, alternatively, maybe God is revealing his creation to us as our capacity to understand it as a society advances. If God truly is the omnipotent supreme ruler of the universe, as I and many others believe, the he would know that our capacity to understand things as humans thousands of years ago would not be what it is today. Surely farmers and herders thousands of years ago couldn't be expected to understand wonderful and complex physical and biochemical reactions or deep time scales of an ancient Earth.
Much like we have simple bible stories for preschoolers that become more complex as we get older, maybe God's plan is to slowly reveal the way his creation works as we are ready to understand it. A question that I often like to ponder is if God created the world as described in Modern Science book vs the way it's described in the Bible, is it any less miraculous?
This post was edited on 2/10/22 at 6:57 am
Posted on 2/10/22 at 6:59 am to Jack Bauers HnK
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A Christian, who believes that Jesus came to earth to die as a sacrifice for sin, who believes that death is the direct result of sin, beginning with Adam, would have a very hard time reconciling millions of years of animals living and dying before the first sin ever occurred.
+1000
"Christians" need to reconsider based on your observations. "Creation" = God's Account; "Evolution" = Man / Lucifer's Lie/ Account
The Trust / Truth Factor comes into play.
Your Christian thesis is exactly why "Dinosaurs" cannot possibly have been on earth "millions" of years ago either. Death" began with Adam & Eve's disobedience.
Posted on 2/10/22 at 7:02 am to Lonnie Utah
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Up until the time I graduated (30ish years ago), in a group of TRAINED scientists, evolution had never "won" the debate against creationism. Which begs the question, Why?
It's simple. Folks that support these "theories" are not constrained by the same rules of "proof" as that of the scientific method. The deck is stacked in their favor. They don't have to prove, by peer review, any of their wild claims. They simply have to repeat their own rhetoric over and over, while poking holes in the gaps that science has yet to fill. Don't believe me? Simply read where this very thread has gone.
“God did it” is the easiest answer there is, while sifting through billions of years of geological history to find specific answers is a daunting task.
Posted on 2/10/22 at 7:03 am to Liberator
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Your Christian thesis is exactly why "Dinosaurs" cannot possibly have been on earth "millions" of years ago either. Death" began with Adam & Eve's disobedience.
Unless "Death" is metaphorical and referring to spiritual death and not actual physical death. If you've read the new testament, you know that Jesus often spoke metaphorically, so why would the rest of the bible be any different if you believe in the Holy Trinity...
I don't know the answer, just proposing an alternative interpretation...
This post was edited on 2/10/22 at 7:05 am
Posted on 2/10/22 at 7:08 am to Lonnie Utah
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Much like we have simple bible stories for preschoolers that become more complex as we get older, maybe God's plan is to slowly reveal the way his creation works as we are ready to understand it.
A question that I often like to ponder is if God created the world as described in Modern Science book vs the way it's described in the Bible, is it any less miraculous?
I get your point -- and it speaks straight to what you seem to convey as THE bottom line.
What if the "Evolution" theory is fully hard-wired and never eventually allows Creationism back into the mind & spirit? Doesn't that potentially undermine faith in the God of the Bible?
From a purely Biblical/"Christian" perspective, YES, it all does matter. But why?
What if the "Modern Science" of "Evolution" is a Lie that detracts from the rest of God's account? (Or even worse -- makes God a "Liar" if HIS account isn't believed? That's THE problem.)
Posted on 2/10/22 at 7:10 am to Lonnie Utah
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Up until the time I graduated (30ish years ago), in a group of TRAINED scientists, evolution had never "won" the debate against creationism. Which begs the question, Why?
It's simple. Folks that support these "theories" are not constrained by the same rules of "proof" as that of the scientific method. The deck is stacked in their favor. They don't have to prove, by peer review, any of their wild claims. They simply have to repeat their own rhetoric over and over, while poking holes in the gaps that science has yet to fill.
+100
Posted on 2/10/22 at 7:12 am to Liberator
I would love to see all the scientific, peer reviewed creationist studies.
No, a book written over 1500 years ago doesn't count
Posted on 2/10/22 at 7:15 am to Liberator
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Lucy was a turrible hoax. Like so many corrupt Smithsonian and Royal Society sponsored BS.
Provide your evidence without a link to Answers in Genesis.
Posted on 2/10/22 at 7:16 am to hubertcumberdale
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Theres literally an entire field of study that people dedicate their lives to studying: Geology, the science that deals with the earth's physical structure and substance, its history, and the processes that act on it.
Yes. BUT controlled and directed to serve a very specific agenda by a SMALL, CLOSED group of of "Science" elite overlords. You already know how this system works -- be it Politics, Davos, Hollywood, or MSM.
Research the history of The Royal Society (London). All authoritative Scientific "discoveries" and are channeled and sanctioned through them from Darwin to Einstein to Leakey to whatever.
Posted on 2/10/22 at 7:21 am to Liberator
quote:frickin' nerds with their superiority complexes and their deep state plots to take over the world, am I right?!
BUT controlled and directed to serve a very specific agenda by a SMALL, CLOSED group of of "Science" elite overlords.
Posted on 2/10/22 at 7:23 am to Displaced
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I would love to see all the scientific, peer reviewed creationist studies.
You do realize that "peer reviewed" only means "sanctioned by The 'Club'", who support a certain agenda, right?
It's no different than subversive control via agenda by DC Pols, Davos, the MSM, Hollywood -- SAME MACHINE. SAME AGENDA.
That said, there are many Creationist scientists already doing great work and proving their case (with REAL "evidence") every day.
Here's an excellent site:
Institute for Creation Research,
This post was edited on 2/10/22 at 7:23 am
Posted on 2/10/22 at 7:24 am to Palantir
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frickin' nerds with their superiority complexes and their deep state plots to take over the world, am I right?!
You serious, Clark?
Posted on 2/10/22 at 7:25 am to Fun Bunch
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Provide your evidence without a link to Answers in Genesis.
You're never serious, are you?
smh.
Posted on 2/10/22 at 7:26 am to Liberator
quote:Dead serious.
You serious, Clark?
They spout their "theories" about evolution and how we evolved from apes. They are trying to take over the world in a secret society. We all know the Earth is only a couple thousand years old, flat, and the sun is much much smaller and closer than they say.
I'm with you bro.
Posted on 2/10/22 at 7:28 am to Liberator
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What if the "Evolution" theory is fully hard-wired and never eventually allows Creationism back into the mind & spirit? Doesn't that potentially undermine faith in the God of the Bible?
If I'm being honest, it does. BUT, and this is a very important point that many Christians are afraid to admit, and shows their lack of understanding of their own FAITH. And I emphasise that word because it's what's key here. While you can look to the world and creation as proof of a Creator (God), a human in this world cannot, scientifically, PROVE the existence of God. We as Christians have to have FAITH in the word, and what the good news tells us, and that is Jesus came to earth to save us from our sins.
To me it's like Matthew 7:3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?" Why do we, as christians, ignore the overarching message of the bible to quibble, with each other and between denominations, about the meanings of specific verses from a book that has been translated and copied to language after language? Surely at some point in all of these times man has interjected his own spin on things? (To see this, all one has to do is read any of the numerous modern translations of the Bible to see how each of the authors subtly changes the language to manipulate the meaning of the specific verses). Unless you speak Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic and have access to the original texts, we really don't know exactly what the authors that originally transcribe the divinely inspired versed meant. So with this in mind, I PERSONALLY read the bible without as much emphasis on details (while still knowing they are important) but rather what is the gist of the story/lesson I'm being told.
It's interesting to think about.
This post was edited on 2/10/22 at 7:34 am
Posted on 2/10/22 at 7:32 am to Displaced
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No, a book written over 1500 years ago doesn't count
You may not believe this (because the ENTIRE system of science, archaeology, and "astronomy" was hijacked in the mid-1800s by the SAME Rockefeller-Controller directing by Davos, Fauci, DC, the MSM, Hollywood), but there were still objections to the Evolution / Heliocentricism / "Spinning Ball" Hoaxing from REAL scientists who'd written a slew of books from 1850s - 1920s. I have several.
You can either leave the Plantation and start researching OUTSIDE the small box they've assigned for us all; OR stand pat and buy their BS.
Posted on 2/10/22 at 7:35 am to texag7
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How old do you believe the Earth is?
Don't care. The Bible was never written to explain the age of the earth.
Posted on 2/10/22 at 7:36 am to Lonnie Utah
Well thought-out post. I hear ya.
Regarding the differences in texts, yes there are some minor quibbles in translation. But they are unanimous in their translation of Genesis.
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...This is a very important point that many Christians are afraid to admit, and shows their lack of understanding of their own FAITH. And I emphasise that word because it's what's key here. While you can look to the world and creation as proof of a Creator (God), a human in this world cannot, scientifically, PROVE the existence of God. We as Christians have to have FAITH in the word, and what the good news tells us, and that is Jesus came to earth to save us from our sins.
Regarding the differences in texts, yes there are some minor quibbles in translation. But they are unanimous in their translation of Genesis.
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