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How much voltage drop overnight is OK in a car?

Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:44 am
Posted by Ajo Devil
Tempe, AZ
Member since Sep 2006
2428 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:44 am
Have an 07 Accord. Couple months ago the battery died a couple times. Jumped it and checked the voltage while running and the alternator was throwing 14+ volts, so that's good. Bought the battery from Costco, so took it down and exchanged it for a new one.
Yesterday, the battery died again. Jumped it and got it home and the voltage yesterday afternoon was 12.6. Just went out and checked it this morning and the voltage is 12.38.
Is that a normal ovewrnight voltage drop due to alarm, onboard computer etc, or does it sound like I have a short?
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
33962 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:45 am to
12.38 will struggle to start the car, that isn't normal
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19537 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:46 am to

You might see voltage variation like that as a result of changes in temperature.

I’d monitor over the course of a few days to see if it’s a consistent drop.
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
9673 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:51 am to
Your battery is failing; probably a bad cell or a faulty alternator.

It’ll only get worse as it gets colder.
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 9:54 am
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
21517 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:51 am to
Is this local? The temps down here haven't been anywhere near low enough to put a stress on a new battery.

My bet is a short or that alarm is drawing more than it should. Can you disconnect the alarm for a day or so and then re-test?
Posted by LSU Tigerhead
Metairie
Member since Nov 2007
4961 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:57 am to
I had problems with my 2004 Honda Civic. I bought a new alternator and after removing the power steering unit to access the alternator, I discovered a loose wire to the alternator. It was completely severed, just hanging there making occasional contact, enough to keep me baffled. I reconnected it and haven't had a problem with it since (returned the new alternator for a full refund).

So check all your wire connections first. Good luck!
Posted by Ajo Devil
Tempe, AZ
Member since Sep 2006
2428 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:58 am to
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Your battery is failing; probably a bad cell or a faulty alternator.

I just put a brand new battery in a little over a month ago.

quote:

Is this local

It's in Arizona, definitely not cold.
Posted by Traveler
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Member since Sep 2003
24263 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 10:08 am to
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a faulty alternator.

A quick check for a faulty diode inside the alternator, start the car, and with a multimeter and the AC scale selected (not DC) check for voltage across the battery terminals. Should read 0.00
Any voltage read is a voltage leak through the diode and will cause a parasitic drain on your battery when shut off.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
21517 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 10:45 am to
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I just put a brand new battery in a little over a month ago.


Doesn't mean it isn't faulty. I went thru 3 batteries last spring that would not hold a charge. The guy at the store got pissed at me and swore it was not the battery. So he put it on their charger. After 2 hours it still would hold a charge. He gave me my refund because I was tired going back. Went down the street and bought one from a different store and everything has been fine.

If you tested it running and got 14+ then the alt is PROBABLY not the issue.
Posted by Bigfishchoupique
Member since Jul 2017
8411 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 11:14 am to
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Doesn't mean it isn't faulty. I went thru 3 batteries last spring that would not hold a charge. The guy at the store got pissed at me and swore it was not the battery. So he put it on their charger. After 2 hours it still would hold a charge. He gave me my refund because I was tired going back. Went down the street and bought one from a different store and everything has been fine. If you tested it running and got 14+ then the alt is PROBABLY not the issue.



Your battery should hold 13.5 volts for cranking.
Posted by HeadSlash
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 11:17 am to
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Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15118 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 11:27 am to
quote:

Your battery should hold 13.5 volts for cranking.


Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
25690 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:10 pm to
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Jumped it and checked the voltage while running and the alternator was throwing 14+ volts, so that's good.


Voltage alone is not a reliable test for an alternator. You need to get someone to actually run a charging system test on it. Just because the voltage is adequate doesn't mean the amperage (current) is adequate.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20408 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:15 pm to
Possible you got a bad battery. Happens a lot nowadays.
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
6851 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:07 pm to
With the car off put an ammeter inline between the negative terminal and the negative lead. Determine if it's a load draining down while sitting. If it's drawing a substantial amount of power, eliminate one circuit at a time (pulling fuses) and determi e what and why.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7548 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:10 pm to
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With the car off put an ammeter inline between the negative terminal and the negative lead. Determine if it's a load draining down while sitting. If it's drawing a substantial amount of power, eliminate one circuit at a time (pulling fuses) and determi e what and why.


This.

Sounds like a parasitic loss. Find out what is drawing the amps with the key off.
Posted by LCA131
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Member since Feb 2008
72602 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

quick check for a faulty diode inside the alternator, start the car, and with a multimeter and the AC scale selected (not DC) check for voltage across the battery terminals. Should read 0.00
Any voltage read is a voltage leak through the diode and will cause a parasitic drain on your battery when shut off.


Almost word for word what I would have suggested... Except I didn't know any of that.

Traveler knows his stuff.
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