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How much easier is it to lump everyone that agrees on 1 thing into 1 category?

Posted on 6/6/20 at 11:33 am
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
28374 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 11:33 am
i find myself falling into this trap all the time, someone will make one statement and it influences what category i group them into and ruins the whole dialogue.

the Brees situation is a perfect example. he honestly didn't say anything wrong, but the way he said it ("disrepecting the flag") people jumped all over him.


all it does it shut down the actual conversations and cause people to quit listening to the message he was trying to get across.

is it something that is hardcoded into us or a learned behavior? i can argue all day and it doesnt affect me personally, but i know so many people that as soon as you disagree with them they shut off and take it as a personal attack. its honestly one of the least productive attributes that seems to be more common than not
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
159116 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 11:34 am to
only people like you would believe that
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
76209 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 11:37 am to
It isn't easy. It is lazy.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 11:37 am to
quote:

How much easier is it to lump everyone that agrees on 1 thing into 1 category?


not as easy as lumping all who disagree on one thing (or any one of a list of one things) into 1 Category
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
12783 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 11:38 am to
There is a dearth of critical thinking in all matters today, from both sides. I’d say five to seven percent of all Americans can objectively assess a situation and make a rational determination.
Posted by 50407Tiger
Member since Oct 2019
1227 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 11:40 am to
Preconceived judgements or some people call it prejudice.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 11:42 am to
quote:

There is a dearth of critical thinking in all matters today, from both sides. I’d say five to seven percent of all Americans can objectively assess a situation and make a rational determination.



I assessed your post, given data of people I interact with, and my assessment is that you are over by a factor of 2.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43088 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 11:45 am to
As a follow up, please note how it’s common knowledge now that we have a systemic racial problem. No one of note will argue that we do not. It’s a given.
Posted by ElRoos
Member since Nov 2017
7924 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 12:01 pm to
His words sounded harsher than they actually were.

People conflated
quote:

“I will never agree with anybody disrespecting the flag of the United States of America or our country"
with
quote:

"People should not have the right to protest during the national anthem."


LeBron in 2016:

quote:

"Me standing for the national anthem is something I will do. That's who I am. That's what I believe in. But that doesn't mean I don't respect and don't agree with what Colin Kaepernick is doing.”


They essentially say the same thing, it's just Brees' words were much more alienating since he used the word 'never' and due to the timing of his response. But the fact that he got pressured into apologizing for his own beliefs when they weren't wrong or hurtful in any way besides to people who are overly sensitive is just outright ridiculous. Lost a lot of respect for him for that.
Posted by 007mag
Death Valley, Sec. 408
Member since Dec 2011
3928 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

i can argue all day and it doesnt affect me personally
I'll argue one side at work and the other side at home.
Posted by madddoggydawg
Metairie
Member since Jun 2013
6764 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

please note how it’s common knowledge now that we have a systemic racial problem. No one of note will argue that we do not.
I am of great renown and note that your comment is pure speculation that contradicts all data.

ETA: I can’t tell if you are being sarcastic.
This post was edited on 6/6/20 at 12:21 pm
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 6/6/20 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

They essentially say the same thing, it's just Brees' words were much more alienating since he used the word 'never' and due to the timing of his response. But the fact that he got pressured into apologizing for his own beliefs when they weren't wrong or hurtful in any way besides to people who are overly sensitive is just outright ridiculous. Lost a lot of respect for him for that.


He had the audacity to be white and have an opinion in America in 2020.
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