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re: How many of these "professional" photographers use their smartphones?

Posted on 5/8/18 at 11:55 pm to
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 11:55 pm to
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What sport is there where you would need to go to 1/8000?

Any sport where objects can move 100mph.

Racing (cars, quads, dirt bikes)
Baseball (pitches and bats)
Golf
Tennis
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 6:44 am to
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quote:
What sport is there where you would need to go to 1/8000?

quote:

Any sport where objects can move 100mph.

Racing (cars, quads, dirt bikes)
Baseball (pitches and bats)
Golf
Tennis



All can be captured with slower shutter speeds.

1/8000 is great, but lets not act like it is some essential setting for sports photography.
This post was edited on 5/9/18 at 6:47 am
Posted by The Cool No 9
70816
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 8:09 am to
You get nothing of quality on a phone compared to a DSLR or mirrorless full frame camera.
Posted by BiggerBear
Redbone Country
Member since Sep 2011
3164 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:09 am to
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Cue photo snobs saying that composition and lighting are more important than equipment.


There's an old comeback line to the backhanded compliment that you must have a good camera if you take good photos and it is that you must have good pots and pans if you cook good food. I.e., it's not the camera that takes good photos.

Smartphones have some very capable cameras in them but those cameras also have extreme limitations that most photographers will not accept for most uses and that cannot be fully remedied with add-on lenses.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:45 am to
Maybe those shots look good to you on a phone but I am viewing them on a monitor and the IQ is bad on the first and third picture.

The composition is good on all.

The lighting is poor on the first. I think it’s underexposed slightly.

The bokeh on the first looks like fake-arse phone bokeh and the subject is very grainy and pixelated.

There’s no blur on the guy flipping, so hurrah for adequate shutter speed, but he’s not really that sharp and his hands and feet look pixelated.

There’s no full substitute for a DSLR or high end mirrorless and a real quality lens. You can get pretty darn decent camera phone photos in perfect conditions but it’s never going to have the same color, sharpness, absence of grain or pixelation, the ability to adjust the depth of field or brightness on the fly, or the capabilities of freezing extremely fast motion or shooting in very low light.
This post was edited on 5/9/18 at 9:46 am
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5580 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 3:25 pm to
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1/8000 shutter speed for sports


What sport is there where you would need to go to 1/8000?


1/8000 is a convenient option, but it's normally overkill. Only time I can think I ever ventured that far was a bright day when I needed DoF @ f/1.2.


you can freeze a softball as slow as 1/1250



or a baseball at 1/6400



Posted by wheelr
New Iberia
Member since Jul 2012
6230 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 3:50 pm to
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The bokeh on the first looks like fake-arse phone bokeh and the subject is very grainy and pixelated.


You can see it didn't blur part of the street between her body and hair as well.

Everything else you said is right on too. Sure you can get some nice photos with a phone but it is no substitute for a dedicated camera and nice lens.
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