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re: How many more years of human work is left?

Posted on 6/24/25 at 9:07 pm to
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 6/24/25 at 9:07 pm to
I let Gemini answer in my stead:

It's completely understandable to be worried about the impact of AI on the future of work and what that means for your child. These are significant concerns that many people share.

Here's a breakdown of what the current thinking and research suggest about AI's impact on jobs and capitalism:

1. AI and Job Displacement vs. Creation:

* Automation of Routine Tasks: AI is indeed highly capable of automating repetitive, predictable tasks across many industries. This includes everything from data entry and customer service to certain aspects of legal research and financial analysis. Reports from institutions like Goldman Sachs and the World Economic Forum project millions of jobs could be "exposed" to automation or displaced.

* New Job Creation: However, it's not a one-sided story. Historically, technological advancements have always led to shifts in the labor market, not just outright elimination of work. AI is also creating entirely new job categories, particularly in fields related to AI development, maintenance, and ethical oversight (e.g., AI specialists, data scientists, machine learning engineers). Some projections even suggest that AI could create more jobs than it displaces in the long run.

* Job Transformation and Augmentation: Many existing jobs won't disappear entirely but will be transformed. AI can augment human capabilities, allowing workers to be more productive and focus on higher-level, more creative, and strategic tasks. This means a shift in required skills, emphasizing critical thinking, creativity, problem-solving, and emotional intelligence – skills that AI is less adept at.

* Skill Polarization: One significant concern is "skill polarization." There's a growing demand for highly skilled workers who can develop, manage, and leverage AI, while low-skilled jobs that are easily automatable face higher risks of obsolescence. This could exacerbate income inequality.

2. The Future of Human Work:

* Focus on Human-Centric Skills: The consensus among experts is that the future of human work will lean heavily into uniquely human capabilities:

* Creativity and Innovation: AI can generate content, but true innovation, artistic expression, and out-of-the-box thinking remain human strengths.

* Emotional Intelligence and Empathy: Roles requiring deep human connection, empathy, care, and understanding (e.g., healthcare, education, counseling) are less susceptible to full automation.

* Complex Problem Solving and Strategic Thinking: While AI can analyze vast amounts of data, the ability to define novel problems, navigate ambiguity, and make high-stakes strategic decisions still largely belongs to humans.

* Collaboration and Communication: Working effectively in teams, negotiating, leading, and communicating nuanced ideas are crucial human skills.

* Lifelong Learning and Adaptability: The need for continuous learning and reskilling will be paramount. Workers will need to adapt to new tools and technologies and acquire new skills throughout their careers to remain relevant.

3. Capitalism in the Age of AI:

* Increased Productivity and Wealth Generation: AI has the potential to significantly boost productivity and economic growth. If harnessed effectively, it could lead to an era of unprecedented wealth generation.

* Distribution of Wealth and Power: This is where the "peak of capitalism" question becomes critical. If the benefits of AI-driven productivity are not widely distributed, it could lead to:

* Increased Inequality: A scenario where a small number of AI owners and highly skilled individuals capture most of the wealth, leaving a large segment of the population behind.

* Monopolies: The tendency for AI to consolidate power and wealth in the hands of a few large corporations that control advanced AI systems.

* Rethinking Economic Models: The potential for widespread automation has led to discussions about alternative economic models or adjustments to capitalism, such as:

* Universal Basic Income (UBI): A system where all citizens receive a regular, unconditional income to ensure a basic standard of living, regardless of employment status.

* Rethinking "Work": A shift in societal values to redefine "work" beyond traditional paid employment, perhaps emphasizing creative pursuits, community building, or other valuable activities.

* Stronger Social Safety Nets: The need for robust social programs to support those whose jobs are displaced by AI.

In Conclusion:

Your worry is valid, and the challenges AI presents to the labor market and existing economic structures are real. However, many experts believe that the future isn't necessarily one of limited human work for most, but rather a redefined kind of work. The key will be how societies and governments respond to these changes through education, policy, and economic adjustments to ensure the benefits of AI are shared broadly and that human potential continues to be valued and utilized.

It's a conversation that's actively happening among economists, technologists, and policymakers worldwide, and the outcome will depend on the choices we make collectively.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
4542 posts
Posted on 6/24/25 at 9:09 pm to
People need to find a way to screw up AI output.
Posted by NewIberiaHaircut
Lafayette
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 6/24/25 at 9:11 pm to
You are such a bitch.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
31771 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 6:41 am to
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I am legit worried that when my kid grows up, human work may be limited to only a select few.


Select few…. Really…?

Dude, you must be listening some crazy arse’s podcast or something…

AI isn’t taking over people’s jobs… AI isn’t building roads, houses, a/c work, electrical work, plumbing, or just construction in general. AI isn’t delivering or transporting anything . AI isn’t drilling or refining oil. Tell your kid to study hard and become a medical professional or a lawyer. AI isn’t doing police work, or putting out fires. AI isn’t doing forestry wok, or even landscaping.

Relax man, life is short.
This post was edited on 6/25/25 at 7:19 am
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
13105 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 6:45 am to
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AI cant unclog a toilet.



Certainly true but there are about 130 million employees in the US who can unclog a toilet with about 3 minutes of training and proper motivation so toilet unclogging will pay about a dollar a month...
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
14871 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 6:49 am to
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But without business, isn’t the only job the government?



dimg ding ding
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
72542 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 6:51 am to
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How many more years of human work is left?
I wish the guy who invented work had finished it.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
15490 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 7:13 am to
To the degree that a company can improve their margin and productivity, they will and should do it.

Jobs that are repetitive and demand minimum wage, will be targeted as easy replacements.
Some non menial jobs are at risk including the medical and legal field. AI is very good at diagnosing some medical conditions.
AI is good at structuring contracts when it has all of the information.


So it’s coming and to the degree that business can improve their margins and boost productivity, they will do it.

Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
13105 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 7:19 am to
Technology has already rendered labor obsolete relative to just 20 years ago, certainly so to a higher extent going back in increments of 20 years. It is not without reasons that labor participation rate is relatively low compared to the last 40 years or so. It takes fewer people to do what is done across all industries. Even with labor participation rates being lower than they were at their peak in the early 2000s they are about what they always have been historically so folks have always found a way in the past.

At some point in time though there has to be a tipping point, no? When that happens there will have to be a severe reduction in worldwide population OR some serious consideration given, in wealthy developed nations, to a universal basic income. That is a BAD idea, not only from an economic position but a social position - its pretty evident that people who have a modest income through some means other than their labor tend to lead disastrous lives and drag those around them down with them. The ugly answer is probably some sort of hybrid jobs program where people are employed doing shite that could be done more efficiently by a machine simply to keep the person gainfully employed...its a damn sight better than just handing them money because it provides some self esteem and a penny earned is less likely to be spent on stupid shite as a penny found.

This is EXACTLY why we need a stout manufacturing base in the United States. No, buying socks made in the US is not the best economic decision...they can be made far cheaper elsewhere and shipped to the US. Thats all fine and well if you do not have a permanent underclass in the US living on the dole, crime or a combination of the 2 and causing all manner of misery for the rest of us.

There is ZERO reason that we do not fix the shortage of tradesmen in this country with a #2 Ticonderoga pencil and allow employers to hire people from Asia and "shithole" countries to fill those positions.....we do it on military bases around the world, most of the middle east uses such labor for skilled jobs that are "beneath" the citizens. The reason we do not do so is because it would cause a helluva mess among trades people....but the exact same thing happened to textile workers in the US and almost no one uttered a word and now we are convinced we can't survive without $9 packs of 3 T Shirts at WalMart. The true cost of t hat $9 pack of T shirts also includes the cost of providing global security so billionaires are comfortable investing in shite hole countries AND the social cost of a serious lack of jobs requiring little skill to begin with that pay enough to make one's nut through labor alone. Its no more economically feasible to pay an electrician who is a citizen of the US $75 an hour when you can hire one from the Phillipines at $5 an hour and about $20 an hour for his housing and upkeep. That is EXACTLY what has happened to a pile of manufacturing jobs in the US though, except the job went overseas instead of the overseas employee coming here....the result is the same....a permanent underclass of people making their nut on the dole, through crime or a combination of the 2.

Now its technology that is threatening US workers. It is, or will soon be, more efficient from a cost at the point of sale, but the true costs are unknown of what a sizeable segment of the population being for all practical purposes unemployable through no real fault of their own.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
31771 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 7:22 am to
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AI is very good at diagnosing some medical conditions.


In general, sure, but every patient is different and conditions vary pt to pt, stuff AI cannot distinguish. AI isn’t pushing meds, starting IVs doing surgeries etc…
This post was edited on 6/25/25 at 7:24 am
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
20312 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 7:28 am to
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Consumer spending is 70% of the US economy.

We'll probably end up with some sort at UBI at some point in the future, but it will be essentially the equivalent of welfare, not some middle class income.


Why does an economy need to exist if the majority of people cannot contribute in a meaningful way? If AI, automation, and robots can produce all that is needed for survival and luxury, why would we need consumers at all?

I am very serious when I say that I am concerned about the future of our civilization. We have a plethora of historical examples where those with absolute power attempt to kill a large number of people. There is no need to "save" human beings who are not part of the power brokers on top of advanced technology. If anything, there is an incentive to eradicate a large majority of the population considering the environmental impact technology has on maintaining standards of living for them.

I don't know. I hate that I've moved into conspiracy theorist territory, but does it really seem far fetched for these never-read-a-fiction-novel tech bro autists to launch such a campaign once they figure out the final pieces of the puzzle? (AGI, nuclear fusion, etc)
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
4973 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 7:41 am to
Did you use AI to find this??
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
49807 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 7:54 am to
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The frick are you on about?

They've been saying this since the industrial revolution.


Right?

The automotive manufacturing industry is strong! Detroit is still king!


Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
18861 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 8:17 am to
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AI cant unclog a toilet.

Or repair HVAC systems, wire up a house or commercial building, repair and maintain vehicles, police streets, work structure fires or EMS calls, build infrastructure, etc. Manual labor and skilled trades will always be in demand. AI is going to hit the air-conditioned cubicle crowd the hardest.
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