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re: How many lawyers do you know and are they wealthy?

Posted on 7/31/24 at 10:30 pm to
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
31822 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 10:30 pm to
I mean if you like being a lawyer much respect to ya. It's a very noble profession overall. That just ain't me.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
28605 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 10:31 pm to
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The ones making $225k are working a ton and will likely only stick at biglaw firms for 3-5 years before they (1) go in house; (2) move down to a smaller (likely lower-paying) firm; or (3) drop law entirely.


You forgot #4 the primary reason most people accept a Biglaw job: making partner. Biglaw attrition now is about 75-80% depending on the firm through the first 6-7 years. Over 50% of those leaving most firms did not make the choice it was made for them because of the pyramid. You have to cull the herd each year keeping only the ones that look like they are still on track to be partner material. You have some that leave because they are unwilling to deal with the op tempo but most have mentally committed to it before they took the job. The rigors of working in the cubicle section are not a mystery and if anything it is overblown to make potential 1st years think twice.

I am occasionally asked by 1st years if I have any advice, I always say "live like you did in law school for at least 3 years, tomorrow is never guaranteed."
Posted by North Dallas Tiger
United States of America
Member since Mar 2024
13008 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 10:31 pm to
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It's a very noble profession overall.


Most of the time...
Posted by Buryl
Member since Sep 2016
986 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 10:37 pm to
How does one go about starting their own firm right out of school? How much $$& would you need to invest? Genuinely curious.
Posted by NBR_Exile
Houston via Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
1351 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 10:40 pm to
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I mean if you like being a lawyer much respect to ya. It's a very noble profession overall. That just ain't me


I love this sentiment. Yes, the work can be brutal depending on the situation/ company. Attorneys work for the business interests. It's not always a slog. If you enjoy working for the collaborative good for the business it can be very enjoyable and lucrative.
Posted by ETXSully
Member since Dec 2021
103 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 10:48 pm to
I was lucky enough to have a client from day 1 in a family member who operated a mortgage company, so I immediately learned lender document preparation, and I did that for about 15 months. I then reinvested profit (a lot of it) into opening a fee attorney office that produced closings and transactional legal work. I’ve grown it from there to include 6 main practice areas with 4 full time (soon to be 5, my brother finishes the bar exam tomorrow) and 4 contract attorneys.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22292 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 10:51 pm to
That’s great. Congrats and good luck.
Posted by ETXSully
Member since Dec 2021
103 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 10:58 pm to
Thank you. As most have said, it’s a lot of stress. I am a driven person, but I often question is it worth it all. There are good times, but I personally hate trading time away from my family for money.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
67960 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 11:12 pm to
So what are you pulling in per year?
Posted by ETXSully
Member since Dec 2021
103 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 11:21 pm to
2023 my total compensation was around 500k. 2022 I lost close to 800k on a bad timed and likely poorly executed business venture. This year it’s looking like total comp between 350-400k because I have some leftover expenses and growth costs I have to front.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
19301 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 11:26 pm to
Quite a few, and all of them.
Posted by Tiger Attorney
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
19929 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:03 am to
99% of wealthy people I know of are generational wealth.

I do know many rich attorneys ,(I wouldn't say I am one). Wealthy is different...I do business with a lot if wealthy people...two different sets of people.
This post was edited on 8/1/24 at 12:11 am
Posted by North Dallas Tiger
United States of America
Member since Mar 2024
13008 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:05 am to
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99% of wealthy people I know ow if is generational wealth.
no cap
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
34477 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:28 am to
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SFP pulls in about 90k a year

Yeah but $30k of that is DNC fees for lib shitposting.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
69076 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:28 am to
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Even more than that for #BigLaw. Same goes for Birmingham, Atlanta, Nashville, and Tampa.

Nashville big law first year associates start around $180k now. That number was around $110k 10 years ago. That said, their work life sucks and they all appear miserable most of the time. No thanks

I do fine for myself at a boutique firm doing primarily family law and have a great work/life balance. It has its stressful times but all jobs do. But I wouldn’t trade the time I get to spend with my kids for more money
This post was edited on 8/1/24 at 12:38 am
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
34477 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:36 am to
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99% of wealthy people I know of are generational wealth.

This.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49285 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 12:47 am to
I know a lot and I know a lot that passed the bar and never practiced or quit after about a year.

I know a defense lawyer who is right this minute in his office working, probably reading this thread and billing someone’s file 6 minutes at a time.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
80482 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 2:12 am to
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They all do pretty well but they work all the time and are constantly miserable when working



Yeah I can’t fricking wait to retire. Too bad I’ll likely never retire. My wife was a partner in Houston when she retired to be a stay at home mom. If she still worked…with our combined incomes we’d be able to retire young.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
17748 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 5:07 am to
I know a few. They're all comfortable, but none are OT Ballers.
Posted by Shaun176
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
2724 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 6:05 am to
I know hundreds of Lawyers. Most work for big companies or government and earn about the same as other mid career professionals.

I know a few who have their own practice and it is definitely boom or bust.

Ask any workman, lawyers are terrible at paying bills.
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