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How long until we have a self sustaining population on another planet?
Posted on 9/11/18 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 9/11/18 at 8:17 pm
100 years? 500? I suppose a large variable is whether we have a need to colonize another planet, but for the sake of discussion, let’s assume we need a completely self sustaining and self reliant population on mars. How long until we could achieve that?
Posted on 9/11/18 at 8:20 pm to UpToPar
Do you California much? There is a self sustaining population on that planet.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 8:20 pm to UpToPar
We're not even close IMO. It will be a LOOOOOOONG time (if ever). Technology has to advance on so many different levels.
So I'd say we're centuries away or more. I don't know how many centuries.
Maybe three-fiddy.
So I'd say we're centuries away or more. I don't know how many centuries.
Maybe three-fiddy.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 8:24 pm to go ta hell ole miss
Wouldn’t it be more likely that a pandemic cuts our population down to size as a self herd cutting mechanism?
Posted on 9/11/18 at 8:24 pm to UpToPar
Self sustaining? Long, long time.
A station or outpost that scientist visit regularly? Probably in the next 100 years.
A station or outpost that scientist visit regularly? Probably in the next 100 years.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 8:26 pm to StringedInstruments
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Self sustaining? Long, long time. A station or outpost that scientist visit regularly? Probably in the next 100 years.
I tend to agree with this. I don’t think we are even aware what it would take to have a completely self sustaining population on mars because we’re not really sure what resources are available.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 8:27 pm to UpToPar
NASA says they can’t even go back to the moon!!!!
They lost the technology
They lost the technology
This post was edited on 9/11/18 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 9/11/18 at 8:29 pm to UpToPar
DavidtheGnome probably could give a detailed answer. In my opinion, it probably will never happen. Just getting a person to Mars is a colossal challenge and it’d never be self sustaining.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 8:30 pm to UpToPar
I'd say a hell of a long time...regardless of what we think, we have not even scratched the surface of being able to do that.
honestly, we already have a planet that is perfectly suited to our needs...if we can manage to not completely frick it up, we should be able to thrive here indefinitely.
honestly, we already have a planet that is perfectly suited to our needs...if we can manage to not completely frick it up, we should be able to thrive here indefinitely.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 8:32 pm to UpToPar
We would need reliable technologies for generating 02 and H20 from resources on the planet. We also need much better solar power technology. With those things we could basically build a biodome and grow plants and such.
I think the idea of terraforming is basically science fiction.
I think the idea of terraforming is basically science fiction.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 8:35 pm to GEAUXT
It’s crazy to think about essentially starting over from an industrialization standpoint.
For instance, let’s say we discover oil on mars. To produce it, we need the necessary tools and machinery that would be incredibly expensive to transport to Mars. So we need a way to engineer those tools and machinery, which requires more tools and machinery. You would have to almost start over from the Stone Age.
For instance, let’s say we discover oil on mars. To produce it, we need the necessary tools and machinery that would be incredibly expensive to transport to Mars. So we need a way to engineer those tools and machinery, which requires more tools and machinery. You would have to almost start over from the Stone Age.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 8:38 pm to GEAUXT
Ok nerd. Did you enjoy pretending to be smart?
Posted on 9/11/18 at 8:41 pm to UpToPar
I'd say never is more likely
We'd have to terraform Mars and I really don't think that's possible.
We'd have to terraform Mars and I really don't think that's possible.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 8:45 pm to UpToPar
Never.
We won’t want to do it until it’s absolutely necessary and by then it’ll be too late to figure out how.
We won’t want to do it until it’s absolutely necessary and by then it’ll be too late to figure out how.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 8:46 pm to Powerman
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We'd have to terraform Mars and I really don't think that's possible.
Eh, there are a lot of things we have today that would have seemed impossible 500 years ago.
As I said, I think the single biggest limiting factor right now is the fact that we have no dire need to colonize a planet. If that need were to arise, I think we could ultimately do it in 300-500 years.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 8:48 pm to StupidBinder
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We won’t want to do it until it’s absolutely necessary and by then it’ll be too late to figure out how.
This is a problem too, which begs the question why we are not working towards it now.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 8:52 pm to UpToPar
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Eh, there are a lot of things we have today that would have seemed impossible 500 years ago.
Nei deGrasse Tyson made an interesting point in this. To paraphrase, once we’re smart enough to terraform an entire planet, shouldn’t we be smart enough to fix whatever is going on on earth that would cause us to need to terraform another planet in the first place?
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