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re: How long until Andrew Jackson’s statue is removed from Jackson Square?

Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:54 am to
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:54 am to
If they successfully move to remove a previous president, they will definitely move to remove other presidents.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
12058 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:55 am to
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Not to mention the statue is a historic landmark that gives it certain protections.


Oh, so now they are going to start enforcing laws?
Posted by upgrayedd
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136982 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:55 am to
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Yeah, let's never mind that Andrew Jackson successfully defended New Orleans from the British with some ~2000 less troops. Idiots


Those soldiers were invading this racist country to free the slaves and Jackson prevented it to preserve slavery! Take it down!
Posted by tetracarbon
Member since Sep 2019
227 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:55 am to
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Would be a shame, a damn shame.

Of course it would, but we seem to have passed the point of this making any sense.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
68367 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:56 am to
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It's basically a terrorist situation. The mob says either you (government) take it down if you want to somehow preserve it. OR, we'll blatantly commit a crime and come tear it down because you aren't going to stop us or punish us.


Except the “terrorists” are actually mostly government employees and their family members in masks. The government is protesting itself to give it political cover for what it already wants to do.

Actually, considering how the CIA and FBI fund and masquerade as terrorists, it’s actually exactly like terrorism.

Our corrupt governments are the terrorists, the rioters, the cultural vandals, and the stazi clamping down on our rights in the name of safety. This is all orchestrated with approval from the local governments and funding from national (and trans-national) political figures and organizations.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
74893 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:57 am to
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I love how people naively think their favorite historical figure is safe despite supporting the destruction of others
This.

It is the hilarity of all of this.

They will come for you in the end.

Nothing is safe.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:58 am to
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Those soldiers were invading this racist country to free the slaves and Jackson prevented it to preserve slavery! Take it down!



Don’t forget he used bales of fricking COTTON to build walls to defend the city. Basically a complete mockery of the slaves.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
68367 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:58 am to
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Those soldiers were invading this racist country to free the slaves and Jackson prevented it to preserve slavery!


Great Britain didn’t abolish slavery in her colonies until 1833, 2 decades after their attempted invasion of New Orleans. So, no, they weren’t going to “free” any slaves.
Posted by upgrayedd
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136982 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:59 am to
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If they successfully move to remove a previous president, they will definitely move to remove other presidents.


He was not only a president but the de facto patron saint of the city. Taking that statue down is pretty much opening the flood gates wide open.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:01 am to
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Great Britain didn’t abolish slavery in her colonies until 1833, 2 decades after their attempted invasion of New Orleans. So, no, they weren’t going to “free” any slaves.

I guess I forgot to use the sarcasm font
Posted by BeachDude022
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:05 am to
Add a statue of Nagin and rename it Chocolate Square. Satisfy everyone.
Posted by LAcajun2
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2017
178 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:09 am to
Andrew Jackson = Hitler. Good to know for history class.
Posted by td1
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
3069 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:13 am to
There is a huge amount of tourism based on the history of NO, you remove all the history and you will remove all that tourism money. The net effect will be a loss of service jobs and tax revenue that help support all aspects of the city’s economy. Next step will be mass outcry bc nobody wants to visit NO, and it will be bc the things they were coming to see no longer exist.
Posted by Uptowner
The OP
Member since Oct 2019
2030 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:17 am to
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Andrew Jackson never rebelled against his government and he’s one of my favorite Presidents because he truly despised the international bankers with all his heart. He fought in duels and he threatened to hang John C Calhoun from the tallest tree in South Carolina if Calhoun tried to break up the Union. I’m sincerely asking the far left to please leave President/General Jackson alone man.


FYI, their problems with Andrew Jackson have nothing to do with breaking up the Union. Rather, it's that nickname "the architect of the Trail of Tears" that gives some people pause, hero of the Battle of New Orleans or not.
Posted by upgrayedd
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136982 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:20 am to
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There is a huge amount of tourism based on the history of NO, you remove all the history and you will remove all that tourism money. The net effect will be a loss of service jobs and tax revenue that help support all aspects of the city’s economy. Next step will be mass outcry bc nobody wants to visit NO, and it will be bc the things they were coming to see no longer exist.

You're thinking way further into this than they are. They don't care nor will they factor in anything you just stated. Jackson was a bad white man and that's all they look at.
Posted by BayouBoy57
Member since Jun 2020
9 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:22 am to
Remember in 1976 they tried to change the high school mascot
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
68367 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:22 am to
He’s considered Hitler to Native Americans because he ordered the forcible removal of all Native Tribes living East of the Mississippi. This included the “civilized” tribes which had largely been assimilated. The Trail of Tears which resulted was ethnic cleansing on a massive scale.

However, Jackson had many notable accomplishments beyond (destroyed the National Bank, pioneered the Spoils system, founded the Democratic Party, prevented a Civil War with his handling of the Nullification Crisis, paid off the national debt, saved New Orleans from British invasion, etc) that which make him such an important historical figure that the period in time during which he dominated is known as the Jacksonian Era.
This post was edited on 6/12/20 at 10:25 am
Posted by upgrayedd
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136982 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:24 am to
Only president to pay off the national debt too
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
60269 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:24 am to
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How long until Andrew Jackson’s statue is removed from Jackson Square?

Dunno, but it's clear that we'll have this thread every day until it is.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
60269 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:25 am to
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Who's going to stop the mob when they come for it?

15 tons of bronze.
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