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Posted on 2/20/17 at 2:34 pm to tigerite
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Every robot should be required to have a human tender (or more than one) to mitigate job displacement.
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Then, the meters affect your health by radiating your house.
So, my heating bill should go down...sweet
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I also have evidence that they intrude upon your privacy inside the house.
by all means, bring it
Posted on 2/20/17 at 2:36 pm to Uncle Stu
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by all means, bring it
Please don't, this is an interesting topic. I hate it when people derail good threads with bullshite.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 2:36 pm to DaTroof
Very near future...
I will probably be out of a job by 2030 if not before.
I will probably be out of a job by 2030 if not before.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 2:36 pm to DaTroof
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s the human race ever going to come together to plan for this inevitable takeover and enact laws that will allow all humans to live peacefully while the brunt of the work is done by computers and robots or will our failure to plan for this lead to worldwide financial devastation and all out war?
The short answer is no, but people might come together, but people will still be divided in different groups. There will always be people with different agendas and different philosophies.
Humans will adapt to some degree. We would find other ways to become valuable. There will always be sales, entertainment, engineering, medical related, even labor to some degree, etc jobs, but there will be a bigger class gap. The middle class will eventually split. The lower middle will be more "lower" class and upper middle class will be upper class.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 2:55 pm to DaTroof
Not soon.. but most of my field work could be done by drone in the future
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Posted on 2/20/17 at 4:00 pm to DaTroof
Well I'm a sales person so unless they create a robot to close deals....
Who knows I guess.
Why don't you at least ask what industry I'm in before calling me stupid, ya frick.
Who knows I guess.
Why don't you at least ask what industry I'm in before calling me stupid, ya frick.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 4:01 pm to DaTroof
A robot does do my job, but I get paid to make sure the robot doesn't fail.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 4:04 pm to LucasP
If anything my job will go the route of me selling that actual technology. Not the technology replacing my job.
I work in commercial insurance, so technically a robot could review policies, gauge risk/reward, etc. but I don't see how brokering between corporations and underwriters at insurance carriers can be done through tech. A software may have negotiation abilities in the future I guess and give the buyer the info to arm themselves to negotiate themselves? But CFOs and controllers of companies don't want to do that. They just don't. That tech has been around for a decade now and risk managers and CFOs still prefer to know the time, not how the watch is built.
I just don't see it. At least not before I'm dead.
I work in commercial insurance, so technically a robot could review policies, gauge risk/reward, etc. but I don't see how brokering between corporations and underwriters at insurance carriers can be done through tech. A software may have negotiation abilities in the future I guess and give the buyer the info to arm themselves to negotiate themselves? But CFOs and controllers of companies don't want to do that. They just don't. That tech has been around for a decade now and risk managers and CFOs still prefer to know the time, not how the watch is built.
I just don't see it. At least not before I'm dead.
This post was edited on 2/20/17 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 2/20/17 at 4:05 pm to J Murdah
Similar here. I use analytics to negotiate. That wasn't the case just 3-4 years ago even though the software existed. And the analytics aren't always correct and it requires humans to review and tailor.
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Posted on 2/20/17 at 4:06 pm to DaTroof
Never, because I'm telling the the computer what it needs to do.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 4:44 pm to DaTroof
Until that that computer can take customers out for drinks, golf, hunting, ball games and fix their daily complaints I am not worried....that damn computer would have to learn to put with a ton of shite that would cause it to reboot itself about a dozen times a day.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 4:47 pm to cas4t
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I don't see how brokering between corporations and underwriters at insurance carriers can be done through tech. A software may have negotiation abilities in the future I guess and give the buyer the info to arm themselves to negotiate themselves? But CFOs and controllers of companies don't want to do that. They just don't.
Software buys and sells stock on the exchange all day, humans are completely out of the equation. Not sure why insurance couldn't go the same way. But honestly I don't know much about insurance.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 5:04 pm to DaTroof
maybe 50 years, maybe never. 
Posted on 2/20/17 at 5:25 pm to DaTroof
What people don't realize is the domino effect that AI will have on the workforce and the economy. Robots may only take the lowest tier jobs at first but that's enough to cause havoc.
Consider the scenario in which a factory replaces all operators with robots. "Well I'm not an operator so it doesn't affect me."
Wrong. With no production employees you need no supervisors. With no supervisors you need no managers. You also need no HR department and you can cut Accounting down now that you have minimal payroll.
And eventually AI will reach the point that it's more cost-effective than humans even if humans are still better at their jobs. AI doesn't need to eat or sleep or take breaks. It doesn't call in sick or take vacation days or ask for a paycheck and benefits. If a computer program can only do your job at half the speed but only costs 40% of your salary and benefits to maintain...well you're gone.
And those displaced jobs have wide reaching effects on the economy. If you displace all the operators at a factory then you cut their paychecks out of the local economy. Everywhere they spend their money will take a hit.
We're about to see a microcosm of this when driver-less vehicles start taking over the trucking jobs. Motels, diners, and truck stops will all take a hit. And everyone will feel the pressure because those people aren't just going to disappear. They will be looking to re-enter the workforce in other areas.
tl;dr we're fricked
Consider the scenario in which a factory replaces all operators with robots. "Well I'm not an operator so it doesn't affect me."
Wrong. With no production employees you need no supervisors. With no supervisors you need no managers. You also need no HR department and you can cut Accounting down now that you have minimal payroll.
And eventually AI will reach the point that it's more cost-effective than humans even if humans are still better at their jobs. AI doesn't need to eat or sleep or take breaks. It doesn't call in sick or take vacation days or ask for a paycheck and benefits. If a computer program can only do your job at half the speed but only costs 40% of your salary and benefits to maintain...well you're gone.
And those displaced jobs have wide reaching effects on the economy. If you displace all the operators at a factory then you cut their paychecks out of the local economy. Everywhere they spend their money will take a hit.
We're about to see a microcosm of this when driver-less vehicles start taking over the trucking jobs. Motels, diners, and truck stops will all take a hit. And everyone will feel the pressure because those people aren't just going to disappear. They will be looking to re-enter the workforce in other areas.
tl;dr we're fricked
Posted on 2/20/17 at 5:29 pm to DaTroof
I'm in sales, but both Walmart and specs are on computerized ordering systems which order based on register rings and on hand quantities. I can still go in a pitch displays so I'm not fully replaced in those stores yet.
Posted on 2/20/17 at 5:34 pm to DaTroof
There is a theory that any utopian society requires the concept of "free labor". Unfortunately right now the only way to achieve this is slavery, which clearly is not cool.
I know people like to refer to us being in the digital age, but I believe we are in the beginning of a new age that culminates with all necessary facets of life being automated. I see robotics, advanced sensors, processing hardware, telecommunications infrastructure, and software automating a lot of things in the next 10-20 years.
I know people like to refer to us being in the digital age, but I believe we are in the beginning of a new age that culminates with all necessary facets of life being automated. I see robotics, advanced sensors, processing hardware, telecommunications infrastructure, and software automating a lot of things in the next 10-20 years.
This post was edited on 2/20/17 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 2/20/17 at 5:50 pm to LucasP
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Posted on 2/20/17 at 5:50 pm to DaTroof
I'm a blacksmith and no frickin robot is gonna take my job. We're going through a bit of a slump right now but the market will come back up. It always has
Posted on 2/20/17 at 6:10 pm to DaTroof
Never.
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