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re: How long is too long to be an undergrad? + opinions
Posted on 10/16/17 at 8:53 am to The Pirate King
Posted on 10/16/17 at 8:53 am to The Pirate King
Right now, he is better off learning a trade.
The whole idea of you need a degree to be successful is absurd
The whole idea of you need a degree to be successful is absurd
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Posted on 10/16/17 at 8:54 am to Collegedropout
Go up to Waco and study a trade at TSTC. 2 years you're done and in the job market
Posted on 10/16/17 at 8:54 am to Collegedropout
Definitely answer D.
Check out Eric Thomas on youtube. Dude is a great motivational speaker. Got his GED then took him 12 years to get an undergraduate degree.
Don't worry about it. You are never too old.
Check out Eric Thomas on youtube. Dude is a great motivational speaker. Got his GED then took him 12 years to get an undergraduate degree.
Don't worry about it. You are never too old.
Posted on 10/16/17 at 8:57 am to Collegedropout
you seem to be easily persuaded and unsure of yourself and always looking for the BBD. What you really need to do is get a plan that fits your end game and stick with it. All this dropping out, getting a job, want to go back, not sure where crap is why I would never hire you.
Posted on 10/16/17 at 8:58 am to Jones
Uh.... wanting to get involved in politics one day, deciding between business or liberal arts majors, and taking a year off to live somewhere I've never lived are not mutually inconclusive with becoming a landman.
Posted on 10/16/17 at 9:01 am to Collegedropout
I'm assuming that you'd need a little above average on the ACT if you factor in a "shite GPA"... granted my definition of shite may be different than some
Posted on 10/16/17 at 9:03 am to Jones
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The whole idea of you need a degree to be successful is absurd
I didn’t say you do. I’m saying if he wants the easier path that gives you the most options, getting a degree is a better way to do that. It sounds like he has no clue what he wants to do with his life.
If he goes to be a plumbing apprentice and drops out of school permanently, his options are very limited.
Posted on 10/16/17 at 9:04 am to The Pirate King
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You’re better off having a degree to fall back on. There’s tons of EASY jobs that just require a degree of any kind. It’s easier to get the degree now, than trying to go back to school in your 40’s while raising a family.
Degree to fall back on how? What does that mean? How do you fall back on a degree in gender studies or entrepreneurship? You'll do better to learn an actual skill. A skill that makes you valuable. This isn't the 70's or 80's anymore. Most degrees carry little value because everyone has them. It's illogical to put yourself into 100k in debt if you don't realistically see a way to pay that off within 10-15 years.
The purpose of a degree is to get a job. I got my degree in engineering because I knew there was demand in that field. You have to determine if the benefit of a degree outweighs the costs of the degree. If it doesn't, learn a trade.
If regular school isn't your thing, go to Air Traffic Control school or do an apprenticeship to become a lineman for an electric utility, or go to perfusionist school. Those are just extended training programs. And each of those professions have average pay in the $110k-125k range.
This post was edited on 10/16/17 at 9:06 am
Posted on 10/16/17 at 9:07 am to The Pirate King
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If he goes to be a plumbing apprentice and drops out of school permanently, his options are very limited.
If he goes to school and drops out his options are also limited.
We're assuming he actually does what we're suggesting here.
Posted on 10/16/17 at 9:08 am to Law Baw
I got a 26 or 27 junior year so I should be able to raise it a few points. Nothing spectacular but enough to go where I wanted to go. I really fricked up staying in Texas.
Posted on 10/16/17 at 9:09 am to Signal Soldier
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Join the military. You can finally grow up and quit being a child. Then when you go back to school, it'll be free and you'll make straight A's because you're no longer a loser.
Wish I'd done this. 17 was way too young to start college.
Posted on 10/16/17 at 9:11 am to Pecker
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Degree to fall back on how? What does that mean? How do you fall back on a degree in gender studies or entrepreneurship
There are a lot of jobs (especially any for bigger companies) that will weed out people who don’t have a degree (any degree). It doesn’t matter if the job is a lowly data analyst, or a manager. Just off the top of my head, with ANY degree you can do upper level sales, government, librarian, and tons of other things.
You can’t tell me you honestly believe that having a degree over not having one doesn’t give you many more opportunities in the job market. Like I said, many places that you will apply will automatically weed you out if you don’t have a degree of some sort, starting with Enterprise Rent-a-car.
Posted on 10/16/17 at 9:14 am to The Pirate King
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It sounds like he has no clue what he wants to do with his life.
Exactly how I read his threads
Posted on 10/16/17 at 9:14 am to Collegedropout
You are planning on retaking the ACT? I dont know if I could make myself do that again but best of luck.
Posted on 10/16/17 at 9:15 am to Collegedropout
I was 23 when I graduated and felt like a dinosaur in a few of my classes
Posted on 10/16/17 at 9:17 am to The Pirate King
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There are a lot of jobs (especially any for bigger companies) that will weed out people who don’t have a degree (any degree)
I said, many places that you will apply will automatically weed you out if you don’t have a degree of some sort, starting with Enterprise Rent-a-car.
The point is that why the hell would you go get a degree to work at Enterprise Rent-a-car? You will make more money yearly by just being a good server at a nice restaurant.
A "generic" degree isn't a free ticket to unlimited job opportunities. It's an expensive ticket to limited job opportunities. You have to determine if the costs outweigh the benefits.
Is it really better to be 25 with a degree in African American Studies and work at Enterprise, than to have no degree at all? Not if that degree cost you $200k.
Unless you're getting a degree in a field that has demand, learn a trade. An actual skill. It's a cheaper more straightforward path to a career.
Posted on 10/16/17 at 9:23 am to Jones
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The whole idea of you need a degree to be successful is absurd
Have you looked at the median income of those with a degree vs those without a degree lately?
I don't regret getting my degree whatsoever.
Posted on 10/16/17 at 9:27 am to Collegedropout
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I'm one year out of high school
This explains everything
Posted on 10/16/17 at 9:29 am to southernelite
What is your degree In?
I'd like to see the median income of non stem degrees versus people with trades like electricians, welders, carpenter's, etc
I'd like to see the median income of non stem degrees versus people with trades like electricians, welders, carpenter's, etc
Posted on 10/16/17 at 9:30 am to southernelite
Median earnings with a bachelor's degree: $50,000
Median earnings with a hs diploma: $30,500
Median earnings with a hs diploma: $30,500
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