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re: How does a totaled vehicle is determined?
Posted on 3/24/26 at 8:20 am to shoelessjoe
Posted on 3/24/26 at 8:20 am to shoelessjoe
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It’s a 2020 Honda LX with about 78k miles on it. My daughter’s first car and is so upset about the incident.
If the insurance company decides it's totaled then you might look into keeping it with a salvage title. I've never done that but some people chose to keep reliable models (ie, a 2020 Honda that was well-maintained by one owner). You can research salvage titles.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:20 am to shoelessjoe
Have the car towed home and put it up on cement blocks. Makes for a great conversation piece
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:22 am to shoelessjoe
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How does a totaled vehicle is determined?
people don't think it be like it is but it do
Posted on 3/24/26 at 10:44 am to shoelessjoe
Ask ChatGPT…honestly I have no idea why people ask a dumb message board when you can get more accurate answers with AI
Posted on 3/24/26 at 12:37 pm to TigerMak
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It’s 70%
La. RS32.702(14)
(14) "Total loss" means a motor vehicle which has sustained damages equivalent to seventy-five percent or more of the market value as determined by the most current National Automobile Dealers Association Handbook. However, a motor vehicle that sustains cosmetic damages caused by hail equivalent to seventy-five percent or more of its market value as a result of costs for repairs to items such as windshields, windows, and rear glass, exterior paint and paint materials, and body damage such as dents shall not be deemed a "total loss" and salvaged; however, such vehicles shall be issued a branded title indicating the vehicle has sustained hail damage.
Posted on 3/26/26 at 10:00 am to Obtuse1
I literally just went through this one year ago and they used 70%
Posted on 3/26/26 at 10:09 am to TidenUP
I had that happen to me a few years ago. The owner usually gets screwed on an older car that is totaled. The person's insurance company that hit me only paid for the current value of the car, so I had to go out and get another car.
Posted on 3/26/26 at 10:17 am to TigerMak
You'd be amazed at what they call "totaled" these days. We have a small fleet of company owned vehicles, and one of our guys got into a very minor wreck a couple of years ago. He had to swerve to miss a car, ended up on the side of the road and ran the passenger side up against a small tree. Like a crepe myrtle or Bradford Pear, small trunk. No damage to the hood, radiator, or drivetrain. Just body panels and a door.
He was still driving it for about a month while we were waiting on insurance claims and repair estimates, then they came back and the body panel replacement cost and value of the car and ended up totaling it. It was fairly new at the time, I think a 2019 model year and this wreck happened in 2024. We had only owned it maybe 2.5 years. Paid around $20k for it and ended up getting a check for around $15k from insurance. There's no way replacing two body panels and a door panel would cost that much.
He was still driving it for about a month while we were waiting on insurance claims and repair estimates, then they came back and the body panel replacement cost and value of the car and ended up totaling it. It was fairly new at the time, I think a 2019 model year and this wreck happened in 2024. We had only owned it maybe 2.5 years. Paid around $20k for it and ended up getting a check for around $15k from insurance. There's no way replacing two body panels and a door panel would cost that much.
Posted on 3/26/26 at 11:26 am to shoelessjoe
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Daughter got in an accident today and her air bag didn’t deploy but the hood was pushed up and front end was messed up.
I'm setting the likelihood her phone was the reason for the accident at 99.99%.
Posted on 3/26/26 at 11:31 am to shoelessjoe
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How does a totaled vehicle is determined?
It's when insurance determines if doesn't the total and do.
Posted on 3/26/26 at 3:20 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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I'm setting the likelihood her phone was the reason for the accident at 99.99%.
Negative!
Posted on 3/26/26 at 3:28 pm to TidenUP
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Price to repair is greater than the vehicle's value.
No, usually the insurance company will just total it if the repair estimate is more than 75% of the blue book value.
There's almost always additional hidden damage that gets discovered once the repair shop starts disassembling things. So if the original estimate is 75%, then the insurance company knows the final figure may be more costly than just totaling it.
Plus if they total it, the insurance company can at least recoup some of their money by selling the vehicle for salvage.
Posted on 3/26/26 at 3:30 pm to TU Rob
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There's no way replacing two body panels and a door panel would cost that much.
Depends on what kind of tech the vehicle was equipped with. Nowadays the accident you described might involve replacing a couple of cameras, blind spot sensors, parking assist sensors, lane keep sensors, and all kinds of other tech gadgets that drive up the repair cost.
Posted on 3/26/26 at 3:32 pm to shoelessjoe
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Negative!
Because that's what she told you? And you believed her?
Posted on 3/26/26 at 3:33 pm to shoelessjoe
It’s been 25 years since I was an adjuster. But if I remember correctly the method an adjuster can “construct” a total loss by deducting salvage value from repair costs. This was encouraged to be done a lot of an insured was insistent about OEM verses LKQ, if the chosen shop was notoriously difficult to deal with (history of unreasonable supplements charging higher than established prevailing labor rates).
I’m glad I got out of that business, in the end I hated the company I worked for because they chiseled the insured, I hated the repair facilities because they (by and large not always) chiseled the companies, and finally I hated the insured because the had ignorant views regarding the value of their vehicle and could never understand why the insurance company would not include the non premium accounted for $12,000 after market stereo system when valuing their 1997 Altima.
I’m glad I got out of that business, in the end I hated the company I worked for because they chiseled the insured, I hated the repair facilities because they (by and large not always) chiseled the companies, and finally I hated the insured because the had ignorant views regarding the value of their vehicle and could never understand why the insurance company would not include the non premium accounted for $12,000 after market stereo system when valuing their 1997 Altima.
Posted on 3/26/26 at 3:35 pm to rd280z
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The person's insurance company that hit me only paid for the current value of the car, so I had to go out and get another car.
Only? What value do you think they should have paid you?
Posted on 3/26/26 at 3:36 pm to MMauler
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Is the amount of to fix it more than the blue book value of the car?
Sort of.
It's normally a percentage of the vehicle's pre loss value. Most carriers just use 75% (unless they are required to use a lower number) and sometimes they use the total loss formula which is IF Repair + Salvage > Pre-loss ACV = Total
Posted on 3/26/26 at 3:37 pm to Cajun Cricket
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the Diminished Value Cost
DV is probably not relevant in OP's situation because the accident he described sounds like his daughter rear ended someone else. DV is only applicable when the other driver was at-fault and you're making a claim against their insurance.
If OP's insurance company opted to repair the vehicle instead of totaling it, he won't get paid the DV if his daughter was at-fault.
Posted on 3/26/26 at 3:45 pm to TigerMak
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I literally just went through this one year ago and they used 70%
"They" are allowed to pay the ACV minus salvage for ANY damage to a car. "They" can "total" a Ferrari 296 Speciale with an inch-long scratch on it if they like. They could also pay someone twice ACV because they were feeling generous. That does not change the fact that in LA the codified definition of a totalled vehicle is 75% of the ACV. There are reasons an insurance company will go below the LA threshold of 75% the biggest of which is if a car is close to 75% there is a very good chance there will be underlying damage that is missed pushing the car above 75% of ACV for repair. An anecdotal instance of an insurance company using a different number does not change the LA code that defines a totalled car.
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